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Amtrak Train May Have Been Struck Before It Derailed, Officials Say
New Yoirk Times ^ | May 15, 2015 | DAVE PHILIPPS and EMMA G. FITZSIMMONS

Posted on 05/15/2015 4:20:44 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey

PHILADELPHIA — An assistant conductor on the Amtrak train that derailed on Tuesday believes she heard the engineer tell another regional train operator in a radio transmission that the train had been struck by something just before the accident, according to the National Transportation Safety Board.

At a news conference on Friday, Robert L. Sumwalt, the safety board official who is leading the investigation, said the F.B.I. had been asked to examine what he described as a fist-size impact area found on the lower left side of the train’s windshield. Officials said that the F.B.I. had been called in because it has the forensics expertise needed for the investigation, but that it had not yet begun its analysis.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: amtrak; amtrakinvestigation; derailment; philadelphia; train; trainwreck
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To: NoCmpromiz

I’m old enough to remember the Washington-to-Buffalo train, and I’m old enough to have ridden the Northeast Corridor and the Philadelphia area commuter lines in the Pennsylvania Railroad days. I remember the Red Rattlers.


221 posted on 05/15/2015 7:40:12 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Alberta's Child

That story doesn’t make sense. Then there are the


222 posted on 05/15/2015 7:42:13 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Chewbarkah

I dont know his history

I do know that there were three different trains which were allegedly hit by projectiles along that same track...in fairly close proximity... the 3 incidents happening within minutes of each other.

there’s a map of the “action “ in post #184. this thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3290340/posts?page=184#184

the FBI did indeed deny that terrorism was involved the very night the incidents occured...though they are still investigating .....oddly enough

in earlier threads no one had mentioned their normally ubiquitous denial having been made in this case.

the denial was not at all widely reported almost needless to say


223 posted on 05/15/2015 7:42:33 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: NoCmpromiz

I was responding to another poster’s idea that the Engineeer was distracted at the time and lost track of where he was located, hence the comment on signal aspect and speed.

I am a train person and am aware of the way signals, etc. work. But thanks for the reminder.


224 posted on 05/15/2015 7:46:17 PM PDT by Ez2BRepub
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To: CedarDave

the glazing fracture is because the corner of the carbody had post-derailment impact damage that warped the window opening 2/3 or the way up on the fireman’s side...


225 posted on 05/15/2015 7:46:30 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Secret Agent Man; rdl6989; RushIsMyTeddyBear

226 posted on 05/15/2015 7:51:29 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen (When the going gets tough...the Low Information President Obola (LIPO) goes golfing)
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To: GilGil

I’ve only read this far in the thread, and I haven’t been keeping real close watch on this story, but why is everyone swallowing whole the story that he sped up?

If they made up that story to hide terrorism, it could have been a deal that they made. You make up the story about speeding, no prosecution, we make you out to be heroic to the world, and terrorism doesn’t get blamed.

If I missed something, or a lot, please let me know.


227 posted on 05/15/2015 7:57:22 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: MeshugeMikey

BS !

Those windshields have to withstand impacts daily from bird strikes, rocks, even bullets.

Show us the actual windshields and damage.

I have been on those engines and saw for my self bird strikes.

Show us the actual injury on the engineer’s head and face.


228 posted on 05/15/2015 7:57:36 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (BeThe Keystone Pipe lik ProjectR : build it already Congre)
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To: American Constitutionalist
BS ! Those windshields have to withstand impacts daily from bird strikes, rocks, even bullets. Show us the actual windshields and damage. I have been on those engines and saw for my self bird strikes. Show us the actual injury on the engineer’s head and face.

I heard somewhere the windows in the engines are bullet-proof. Don't know if that is true.

229 posted on 05/15/2015 8:01:38 PM PDT by Ez2BRepub
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To: NJRighty; MeshugeMikey
The NY Times will stop at nothing and spare no expense to exonerate the conductor.... for one reason. Because he is gay.

They are not "gay" people. They are disturbed. They are very unhappy. They are confused and they are acting out as HOMOSEXUALS! The very last thing they are is gay. They are extreme and that is why they act out and DEMAND acceptance.

I refuse to allow the left to hijack my language.

230 posted on 05/15/2015 8:02:36 PM PDT by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: American Constitutionalist
I saw one photograph of he AMTRAK train windshield and it did appear to have holes in it.

beyond that I dont know what sort of projectile could have caused what looked like scattered holes

hers a train which its claimed had its wonshiled demolishe by a turkey?





and heres the photo of the Amtrak train Bostian was engineering




231 posted on 05/15/2015 8:07:25 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: MeshugeMikey

There appears to be a whole lot of investigators, AMTRAC officials, media types yelling SQUIRREL, SQUIRREL, SQUIRREL, SQUIRREL and pointing away from the responsible engineer.

WTF?


232 posted on 05/15/2015 8:08:26 PM PDT by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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To: houeto

I used to put Quotation Marks around the word “liberal” ....

I used to put Quotation Marks around the word “gay” ...

sometimes in the heat of the moment I dont take the time necessary to do so.

Thank you


233 posted on 05/15/2015 8:09:08 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Theo; MeshugeMikey

I hope his PC hard drive is seized.


234 posted on 05/15/2015 8:09:36 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: House Atreides

its not going to be easy to make any sort of determination with the flurry of information and lack of information.... fighting each other.. for prominence...


235 posted on 05/15/2015 8:10:25 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Publius
the Red Rattlers.

LOL.. ;-)

Remember that it all got worse under the sign of the mating worms, er, I mean Penn-Central..

(But it sure would be nice to see some GG1's under wire again.)


236 posted on 05/15/2015 8:10:39 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: Peter Libra

that would be an excellent place to start/.

One article that I found published On The Net on the 12th....quoted FBI guys as saying there was no Link TO Terrorism..which ordinarily means that the act so described was an act of terrorism...

I didnt find that article until this afternoon...

the claim was as far as I can determine not repeated in any other articles since. and I have looked for that denial...believe me.

this is one screwy scenario isnt it


237 posted on 05/15/2015 8:13:13 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: NoCmpromiz

The GG-1’s are all in museums.


238 posted on 05/15/2015 8:15:59 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

It looks like they installed shatter less glass like in autos.

Bird strikes happen everyday on those, I saw it my self one time.


239 posted on 05/15/2015 8:16:25 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (BeThe Keystone Pipe lik ProjectR : build it already Congre)
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To: NoCmpromiz

The engineers and conductors have 2 way radios like walkie talkies, if the engineer saw something or something would have hit the train the conductor and engineer would have been in communication between each other.

The conductor is the boss of the train.


240 posted on 05/15/2015 8:22:00 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (BeThe Keystone Pipe lik ProjectR : build it already Congre)
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