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Speed Control Was Installed, Not On at Time of Amtrak Crash
U.S.News ^ | May 14, 2015 | By Alan Neuhauser

Posted on 05/15/2015 11:16:42 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

A computer system that allows speeding trains to be slowed remotely – potentially averting deadly derailments – was installed in the section of track in Philadelphia where Tuesday’s fatal Amtrak crash occurred but had not been turned on, congressional sources tell U.S. News.

“The PTC was installed in the section of track where the Philadelphia accident occurred, but for whatever reason had not been turned on, the PTC in that section,” Rep. Charlie Dent, R-Pa., tells U.S. News, referring to "positive train control."

His account was corroborated by Rep. Andy Harris, R-Md.

“The tracks had PTC, the train had PTC,” Harris says.

Both congressmen are members of the House Appropriations Committee, which contacted Amtrak for more information about the crash.

The train, Amtrak Northeast Regional 188 from the nation's capital to New York City, was hurtling at more than twice the recommended speed limit when it jumped the tracks just after 9 p.m. Yet the technology that could have slowed it had not been enabled – allegedly because of delays in installing the system, Harris, Dent and a third congressional source say, citing communications between the Appropriations Committee and Amtrak.

"According to Amtrak, PTC was installed in the section of track where the Philly accident occurred," a committee source writes in an email to U.S. News. "There have been delays in 'turning it on' associated with FCC dealings and getting the bandwidth to upgrade the radios from 900 MHz to something higher (for more reliability)."

Amtrak's application for the bandwidth needed to use the positive train control system was approved in "early March," an FCC official says.

(Excerpt) Read more at usnews.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amtrak; philadelphia; ptc; traincrash
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1 posted on 05/15/2015 11:16:42 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
Yeah, "whatever reason."

Into the memory hole with this one.

2 posted on 05/15/2015 11:17:42 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP for A Slower Handbasket)
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To: Jim Robinson

The BNSF often had to disable the PTC to get the trains to move.


3 posted on 05/15/2015 11:18:30 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Steely Tom

Very, very, very, very, very, almost sort of close.


4 posted on 05/15/2015 11:18:35 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder
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To: Steely Tom

Very, very, very, very, very, almost sort of close.


5 posted on 05/15/2015 11:18:52 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder
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To: Jim Robinson

So it is on the track and not on the train? That’s interesting.


6 posted on 05/15/2015 11:20:27 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
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7 posted on 05/15/2015 11:21:21 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP for A Slower Handbasket)
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To: Jim Robinson

so its the machines that caused this accident...not the well paid engineer sitting there and controlling the actual train...


8 posted on 05/15/2015 11:21:38 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Jim Robinson

In Japan, they use Automatic Train Stop (ATS) sensors on the track to determine if the train is travelling too fast or overran a red signal to automatically slow down or stop the train. I’m surprised they didn’t implement this first before installing the much more complicated Positive Train Control (PTC) system.


9 posted on 05/15/2015 11:22:34 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Jim Robinson

You know, it would probably be helpful to have a person at the front of the train to control it. Just like they did back in the 1800s. I think they called them Engineers.


10 posted on 05/15/2015 11:23:34 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Jim Robinson

50,000+ trains passed that same curve without a hint of a problem, yet this one is going over TWICE the allowed speed.

Answer that question, and you have the answer to the problem.


11 posted on 05/15/2015 11:24:05 AM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: Jim Robinson

Rush says the FCC was too busy messing with Obama’s pet project of “ net neutrality” to assign bandwidth to the Amtrack safety system, so it is Obama’s latest failure...with another 8 bodies on his “ Americans Killed” list.
Wake up, Fox News, and report this!


12 posted on 05/15/2015 11:24:11 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
So it is on the track and not on the train? That’s interesting.

If it's in the engine, it can be disabled. Like the alert whistles were in that Maryland Amtrak disaster in 1987 that killed 16.

"It was later discovered that someone had disabled the cab signal alerter whistle on lead unit #5044 with duct tape, muting it almost completely."

Source.

13 posted on 05/15/2015 11:24:35 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP for A Slower Handbasket)
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To: Jim Robinson
Speed control?


14 posted on 05/15/2015 11:25:06 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
"I knew a chick who didn't have that."


15 posted on 05/15/2015 11:29:52 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP for A Slower Handbasket)
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To: Jim Robinson

Just a little bureaucratic snafu. Move along, folks.


16 posted on 05/15/2015 11:30:13 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Jim Robinson
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17 posted on 05/15/2015 11:30:48 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Jim Robinson

It was probably installed, tested and verified to work. Then turned of because workplace rules require some union specialist to put his finger on the switch and flip it.


18 posted on 05/15/2015 11:30:52 AM PDT by chrisser (This space for rent.)
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To: Jim Robinson

The real question is why are trains even designed to go over the speed limit in the first place.


19 posted on 05/15/2015 11:33:49 AM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Jim Robinson

Sounds like the FCC was too busy figuring out a way to seize control of the internet to issue an approval for a critical safety system.


20 posted on 05/15/2015 11:33:54 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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