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Fining Low-Wage Employers Can Help Connecticut's Economy? Really? (The stupid - it burns)
Courant.com ^ | 5/14/2015 | Dan Haar

Posted on 05/15/2015 3:00:42 AM PDT by raybbr

There's no doubt that levying fines against large employers that pay low wages would raise hundreds of millions of dollars for the state government, but opponents have so far held the upper hand by arguing that it would hurt the economy.

Now supporters of the plan — a bill under consideration at the state legislature — are fighting back on economic grounds, with a report due to be released Wednesday showing that the fines would create at least 532 jobs, and perhaps more than 1,000 new positions.

The bill would fine employers with 500 or more Connecticut workers $1 for each hour of work by an employee who earns less than $15. It would raise $189 million a year, according to the report, from a professor at the UConn School of Social Work and two economists who are retired from state agencies.

That figure is lower than an estimate by the legislature's nonpartisan Office of Fiscal Analysis, which pegs the state's take at as much as $305 million a year in fines from companies such as Wal-Mart, McDonald's and Target.

But the job additions? That's a new angle and it raises the stakes.

The fees would increase the number of jobs in the state economy by between 532 and 1,388, depending on how the companies that paid the penalties allocated the costs, according to the report. This would happen because government spending creates jobs more efficiently than spending on retail and fast food, the sectors most affected.

(Excerpt) Read more at courant.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism
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The original headline was: "How A Wage Penalty Can Help The State Economy"

Seems like the comments forced them to change the headline.

The stupid is waaaaaayyyyy large in this one.

1 posted on 05/15/2015 3:00:42 AM PDT by raybbr
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To: raybbr

I’d just start splitting off my company into smaller companies, and create a fake business atmosphere.


2 posted on 05/15/2015 3:03:32 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

“I’d just start splitting off my company into smaller companies, and create a fake business atmosphere.”

Larger companies would probably start running into fraud laws and smaller companies would increase the cost of their mandatory paperwork with each split. One of the things that makes companies profitable is the ability to spread costs over more transactions. Cut the transactions, increase the expense and lower the profit. Then there’s insurance...


3 posted on 05/15/2015 3:25:37 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: raybbr

Government creates wealth? Who knew? This guy Haar must be an incredible genius. We should immediately dissolve all business entities and put everybody on the gov. dole. This will create immense, immeasurable wealth. Everybody will be a multi-millionaire. (snicker)


4 posted on 05/15/2015 3:36:14 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: raybbr

The areas pushing these minimum wage increases seem to be those resigned to watching their good jobs/employers/workers flee, leaving them with the “poverty industry” jobs (low-wage service jobs). They need to create a tax base from that, and this will do: A wealth transfer from employers to state and federal coffers.


5 posted on 05/15/2015 3:37:00 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: raybbr

Wouldn’t it be better if that money got to the low-wage employees instead of to the government?


6 posted on 05/15/2015 3:42:56 AM PDT by grania
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To: raybbr

Why didn’t I think of this! It’s so easy. Obviously full employment and economic recovery can be achieved by fining private employers until they hire everyone at $15 / hour. Then, fine them until everyone makes $30 / hour; then $100 / hour. Who knew prosperity was so easy to achieve.


7 posted on 05/15/2015 4:14:45 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: raybbr

It doesn’t John Roberts to know that would be an illegal and discrininatory tax


8 posted on 05/15/2015 4:21:00 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: raybbr

And in a related story

Texas is open for business.


9 posted on 05/15/2015 4:28:08 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: raybbr
The bill would fine employers with 500 or more Connecticut workers $1 for each hour of work by an employee who earns less than $15

The average wage in Connecticut is $1238 a week...

http://www.bls.gov/regions/new-england/news-release/countyemploymentandwages_connecticut.htm

So if these idiots actually do this, companies will do a simple calcultion of the cost of the penalty verses their current labor costs and either pay the employee the difference or pay the state and then cut hours or reduce personell..

Hard to believe these representives are that stupid...

10 posted on 05/15/2015 4:41:21 AM PDT by Popman (Christ Alone: My Cornerstone...)
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The solution for these employers will be to either close up, move out or lay off low skill workers. Whichever way they go the entry level workers lost their jobs.

Yes, stupidity can be painful.


11 posted on 05/15/2015 4:56:00 AM PDT by logic101.net (If libs believe in Darwin and natural selection why do they get hacked off when it happens?)
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To: raybbr

Me to the Fascists:

“How much will you fine me for shutting down and moving out of this fascist state?”


12 posted on 05/15/2015 5:11:41 AM PDT by G Larry (Obama Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
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To: raybbr

Screwing over the job creators will create more jobs. Some people are really bat-crap crazy.


13 posted on 05/15/2015 5:21:49 AM PDT by vpintheak (Call the left what they are - regressive control-freaks)
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To: pepsionice

“I’d just start splitting off my company into smaller companies, and create a fake business atmosphere.”

I’d simply reduce everyone’s wage by $1 an hour. If they didn’t like that, then they can vote differently in the future. Elections have consequences.


14 posted on 05/15/2015 5:55:24 AM PDT by CSM
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To: raybbr

A few years ago that glittering jewel of colossal ignorance Mark Cuban proposed that the top bracket income tax rate, the capital gains rate, and corporate tax rates, all be indexed to the unemployment rate and official poverty rate.

So if you lay off or underpay your own people, your taxes go up.

Look for that one to start gaining traction.


15 posted on 05/15/2015 6:35:20 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: pepsionice

“I’d just start splitting off my company into smaller companies, and create a fake business atmosphere.”

I would pull my company out of Connecticut, lock, stock and barrel.


16 posted on 05/15/2015 8:10:26 AM PDT by Steven Scharf
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To: Popman
“Hard to believe these representatives are that stupid...”

They ARE this stupid because these are Connecticut Donkeys. Punishing employers for paying wages that politicians are “fair” is a VERY bad idea whose time should not come. Otherwise, the politicians will see the iron Law of Unintended Consequences kick-in. The result will be less jobs and more businesses going under or leaving — along with the taxes paid. There ARE consequences to stupidity.

17 posted on 05/15/2015 11:07:52 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: raybbr

The bolder portion is Keynesian Secret Sauce rearing it’s head once again.

Amazing how quickly Keynesian Economics falls apart (at the macro level, at least) when you remove the theory that straight government redistribution (tax, then spend) behaves differently in the economy than spending by different entities.


18 posted on 05/15/2015 11:15:14 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: raybbr

Let’s see, a report compiled by a professor of social work and two retired state government economists. Stellar panel of experts there.


19 posted on 05/15/2015 11:19:11 AM PDT by Hoffer Rand (Bear His image. Bring His message. Be the Church.)
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