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To: 2ndDivisionVet; MadIsh32
To be sure, any trade deal, while a net plus overall, produces winners and losers.

And therein lies the rub. If Obama has sold out to Wall Street and the Republican establishment has sold out to Wall Street, only lunchpail Democrats (and Scott Walker?) are left to inquire after the interests of the middle-class. If we are shipping jobs abroad and importing illegal immigrants to fill jobs at home and neither Obama nor the Republican establishment is looking out for displaced American workers, that practice produces losers.

We see here the danger of accepting a general principle of failing to make room for the exceptions. Free trade implies a reasonably even playing field and if a free-trade society competes with the mercantilist society, dislocations in the former are inevitable because they are the whole point of the mercantilist policy. Now the fair trade country might believe that it is overall profiting by hollowing out a portion of its economy, for example the rust belt, to advance a different sector of its economy, for example artistic content spawned in Hollywood.

But the workers in the rust belt will simply have to pay a price for the prosperity in Bel Air. If Hollywood is better organized to pour campaign contributions into Washington than are the workers in the rust belt, K St. representing Wall Street which invested in Hollywood, will get its way.

If the nations on the other side of the agreement from America are China and India, the purblind rigid etiquette of political correctness forces our legislators to ignore the human capital being produced in engineering schools in these lands and especially to publicly ignore the human surplus being created in our universities in African studies, women's studies, etc. In other words, we cannot rely on our displaced workers being able to transition from a Rust Belt economy to a cyber economy and riots in our inner cities are periodically producing stark evidence of this reality. Community organizers cannot succeed unless there is social pathology and our policies are creating this pathology and that includes our trade policies as well add the war on poverty.

If China is advancing its students according to a brutal merit based regime and we are advancing ours in order to make everyone feel good, the progression is inevitable and the more we progress in this direction the more difficult it will be to inflict the pain necessary to correct course.

Trade on an international level involving nations in various stages of democracy and development is extremely complex and fraught with winners and losers. To entrust these matters to a communist and to a bought and paid for Republican establishment is the act of supreme folly. It is equally an act of supreme political folly for Republicans to miss this opportunity to tear the Roosevelt coalition asunder and render conservatism a majority political force for a generation.


9 posted on 05/15/2015 12:43:30 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

An excellent post.


16 posted on 05/15/2015 1:43:09 AM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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To: nathanbedford
Very well said! All of this underscores that as a nation we have no long-term strategy.
23 posted on 05/15/2015 3:02:21 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: nathanbedford

You said it right.


37 posted on 05/15/2015 4:33:00 AM PDT by arthurus (.it's true!)
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To: nathanbedford

Yep.

I find it interesting that the ‘free trade’ parrots seem awfully silent on this one.


53 posted on 05/15/2015 5:15:37 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: nathanbedford
In these FTA's where is the legislative body? They merely vote up or down on the passage, is not the purpose of Congress to heed the needs and wishes of the commons and put in 'legislation' for them? Where is our input and priorities? It seems, the only input is by lobbyist and special interest. How does one petition for such interest by the commons?

The handmaidens of free trade tend to be academics who wear the ring of tenure. Followed, by different orders of elites who's finincanical and interest benefit by such decisions.

54 posted on 05/15/2015 5:21:30 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: nathanbedford
If you were to back the "Kraut" into a corner and made him pick a way to fund the US government and gave him the choice of either continuing income taxes or replacing income taxes with tarries/sales/user taxes I believe he would choose the former; like all good progressives they want their cake and eat to.

Free traitors tell us how great the free trade is at the same time supporting the progressive status quo.

61 posted on 05/15/2015 7:12:43 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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