Posted on 05/12/2015 7:04:41 PM PDT by tcrlaf
At least 50 people were hurt after an Amtrak train derailed in Philadelphia Tuesday night, according to officials.
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Normally, the rail functions as a return for the electricity. If the wheels from the locomotive came off the rail you would see arching.
That is correct, CSX says the didn’t have any equipment there.
No, the tracks from DC to NYC are owned by Amtrak including most of the track going to BOS.
That’s one of the brand new Siemins engines. Went into service in Jan I think.
Very interesting.
My money is on the ISIS wannabes.
This isn’t light rail, the power comes solely from the overhead catenary lines.
Yup...bomb on the tracks...remotely detonated.
Pic of fox right now looks like tanker cars on an adjacent track
If a car was completely destroyed, then they were going way to fast around that bend. The fastest they go on the straight section along there is barely faster than the fast traffic on I-95 (I’ve been on those trains many times). Somebody screwed up.
my buddy's on scene on the tracks ... he just called me ... he said there's a crater in the track that the FBI won't let anybody near ... bomb squad on scene with bomb sniffer dogs ... i believe the engineer is one of the fatalities but not confirmed ... now we've seen plenty of derailments ... he said he'd never seen nothing like it ... concrete ties obliterated ... cat poles hanging ... my opinion ... something forced that train off the track and i'm starting to think with the info i just got that something sinister occured ...
And from another poster:
The damage to the one mangled, V'd car is bizarre. Similar accident on Pennsy in same area in 1943. Tank car on adjacent track but does not seem to have been involved or disturbed. The force needed to bend an Amfleet in half is tremendous. Built by Budd to withstand 800,000 pound compression load force at the ends and 300,000 lb horizontal load at the sides. I don't understand it! I was praying no fataltities, but someone has posted 5 dead. I am saddened by this news. NBC10 Philly just mentioned that rails were extremenly bent and what force would be needed to bend them by the derailed loco. The loco is almost 217,000 pounds. I am more interested in how that Amfleet became so mangled. I am totally perplexed and shocked at this!
If this is any thing other than a mechanical/track malfunction or unintentional human error, we have a new national security problem, though the Feds would likely try to bury it like TWA 800.
The Fox analyst is half senile - calling the engine the “lead car.”
Thanks for this report, possibly the most significant of the thread.
He does seem very chipper.
At first I thought bomb aboard lead car but now I’m leaning towards TRACK malfunction or tampering. It seems the conductor braked prior to derailment.. Bad track?
better guy on now.
Pretty sure this wasn’t caused by a “beaver nest” (as the news babe says)
Alright, just saw a picture of the engine and it did not look like it severely impacted something, no blood so not even a person.
Something caused the engineer to deaccelerate and the train to derail (also causing the catenarys to cross causing a large explosion of sparks). The next car jackknifed and the following car hit somthing, maybe a bridge support.
If the engineer was alert enough to brake like that then I have a hard time seeing it as his/her fault. Also it just left PHL and was coming into Trenton so I have a hard time believing he wasn’t alert.
A problem with the track is very hard to see from the engine so it would have been something obvious for the engineer to brake.
A train derailer is bright yellow.
And the second analyst sounds stoned, they’re talking about a beaver dam causing a previous derailment. Switching channels...
Bingo.
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