[Sherman Logan]

I am curious. Would you care to spell out the violations of the Constitution that justified secession? Thanks.

[lqcincinnatus]

The same clauses that justified our leaving the UK.

[Sherman Logan]

You said: “especially, not abiding to the U.S. Constitution.”

I then asked which violations of the Constitution you were referring to.

You have not answered the question.

The British never violated our Constitution because it didn’t exist yet.

[Jagdgewehr]

Do you mean pre or post 1815? Pre 1860? Post 1869? Either way, do you believe a state or confederation of states has no Constitutional right of secession?

How about when the Federal government abuses it's Constitutional power or abandons the Constitution altogether? Haven't we been facing this issue lately? No? Yes?

By the way, I'm referring to today, actually. However, this argument is nothing new in American history going back to 1787.

I guess we will just keep debating this as the chains get heavier on our limbs.