Posted on 05/10/2015 6:19:23 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
No argument there.
A real genius this kid.
Dull witted effete pussies like this guy are whats wrong with the youth of today.
J, your post 29 says exactly what I said it did.
G, your post 50 says that states seceded because of Lincoln unconstitutionally using force to keep them in the union. While this is somewhat defensible, though debatably, for the second round of secession, it has zero bearing on the first round. The 7 states that seceded in 1860 did so long before Lincoln took office. They objected simply to his being elected, not to any actions, unconstitutional or not, that he took while in office.
Sorry if I was unclear. I didn’t say that states seceded because Lincoln used force. I was saying the reverse of that. In other words, Lincoln used force to prevent secession and to coerce a conclusion to the longstanding controversy between the states. He “preserved the Union” against the will of the seceding states and forever changed the nature of the United States by elevating the federal government to a position of supremacy over the states.
No. You assumed. Where do I "specifically" mention the Southern states?
Actually the ratification of the United States Constitution “forever changed the nature of the United States by elevating the federal government to a position of supremacy over the states”.
History must be cleansed. -liberals
This is what I have against BIG college sports. They will accept any jerkwad who can block tackle or run. Or twirl a BBall on their finger.
Many Confederates viewed their insurrection as a second war of independence against tyranny.
Reconstruction ended in late 1876 as part of the deal that allowed Rutherford B Hayes to become President.
It ended then in the few states it was still in effect.
We’ll just have to put up more for whomever leads the insurrection against the Muslim Communist government that is trying to take over the whole nation right now. Blacks and Liberals are going to hate those too.
You can’t wipe out the South, it’s heritage or its history. It’s in the blood. And it isn’t about slavery. That’s just a ploy to get something for nothing. Blacks and Liberal Marxists have little to commemorate except the destruction of liberty on a scale unheard of in American history. No people of any ethnicity came to this country under stellar circumstances. You would think that the Obamas and most blacks still had chains around their ankles, much like my ancestors did, some of whom came here as indentured servants.
Freedom has been dream come true for almost everyone who has come to this nation except for blacks. They simply never learned to deal with the responsibility of it and Liberal whites have been cashing in on them for decades. Even if they succeeded in wiping out every vestige of Southern history, it wouldn’t change the collective mindset of these perpetual “victims”.
“Truth crushed to earth is truth still and like a seed will rise again.” Jefferson Davis
rockrr us good man just he is a statist and cannot grasp the original intent of our countries founding, that the states were EQUAL to the federal. He just doesn’t get it.
Fixed.
You took a factual statement and made it less than factual. That’s not fixing anything - that’s deluding yourself.
What tyranny specifically?
Honestly, do you really think I am the only one, historian or political scientist that ever expressed that sentiment? It is patently obvious to any true historian or intellectually honest person. That is why you don’t get it.
No, you’re not the only one to make that mistake. Others usually admit when they’re wrong and modify their position when confronted with the truth.
So Jefferson Davis was the 19th century Bowe Bergdahl?
Love the irony.
I'm not sure the statue should be taken down, but if you translate Davis's career into 21st century (or 20th century) terms, it's troubling.
It's also strange that we look back on the 19th century in such subjective and post-modern ways.
Nineteenth century men were a lot more critical of such divided loyalties -- at least until nostalgia clouded their vision.
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