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South Carolina Cop Shoots Homeowner Who Called for Help
NBC News ^ | JON SCHUPPE

Posted on 05/08/2015 9:55:03 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 05/08/2015 9:55:03 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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BFL


2 posted on 05/08/2015 10:06:23 PM PDT by Don W ( When most riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When Whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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“I should have put the gun down, but I didn’t.”

Tough to do, but he’s right. He’s lucky he’s not dead.


3 posted on 05/08/2015 10:12:37 PM PDT by Gator113 (~~Cruz, OR LOSE~~ Ted Cruz the only true Conservative in this race.)
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Sad SC ping.


4 posted on 05/08/2015 10:14:41 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Demonicide" - http://youtu.be/FgUWow7WT2Y | Facebook ID: Hopalong Q Ginsberg)
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What makes this even more of a tragedy for us is that someone in effect called us for help and we ended up being a part of him getting injured seriously,” Cannon said.
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Shouldn’t this go down as something that really could have gone without having been said?

A one time popular saying

“Sometimes it is better to let people think you are a fool rather than open your mouth and remove all doubt”.


5 posted on 05/08/2015 10:17:10 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)A pessimist damns the wind, an optimist thinks it will change and a realist adjusts the sails.)
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If you drop the gun immediately as ordered, can it discharge when it hits the ground? If it does discharge, you will wind up looking like a piece of Swiss cheese, if you don’t drop it you will wind up looking like a piece of Swiss cheese also. The best thing to do is have nothing in your hands when the cops arrive on the scene...


6 posted on 05/08/2015 10:17:35 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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“Tough to do, but he’s right. He’s lucky he’s not dead.”

Yeah, but he may well be paralyzed! This quick on the draw stuff has to be stopped. Too many innocent people getting shot, then the sheriff says “we’re so sorry!”


7 posted on 05/08/2015 10:18:52 PM PDT by vette6387
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I hope Mr. Heyward will be all right.


8 posted on 05/08/2015 10:20:36 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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If the good guy had been in a shootout in the house with the hoods then he may have been partially deafened and for damn sure his adrenaline was pumping.


9 posted on 05/08/2015 10:32:15 PM PDT by Rockpile
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Sounds like they have a bit of a problem.


10 posted on 05/08/2015 10:42:56 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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Still, this has to be taken in the context of 1.2 officers in the country and with the internet, every episode like this will be reported.
I had a friend, Rob Noblin, got shot three times when Obama’s son pulled gun out of defective holster in 93.
Forgive me for not crying and fearing riots every time something like this happens.
1.2 millions guys facing eight hours a day of insanity. It’s simple odds that things will go wrong sometimes.


11 posted on 05/08/2015 10:56:57 PM PDT by dp0622
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The best thing to do is have nothing in your hands when the cops arrive on the scene...

What if it isn't the cops who show, up but criminals?

12 posted on 05/08/2015 11:54:02 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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I am sure the Sheriff does feel bad, as well as the Deputy. I feel bad about this one and I wasn’t even there.

From the information made public at this point, this shooting appears to be justified - unfortunate, but justified.


13 posted on 05/09/2015 12:10:46 AM PDT by Gator113 (~~Cruz, OR LOSE~~ Ted Cruz the only true Conservative in this race.)
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Basically, though, doesn’t this mean self defense with a fire arm should not be attempted? Because if you draw a fire arm for self defense, you can’t be sure when the criminals will retreat and when law enforcement will arrive. The human brain can only react so fast. So, if you draw a fire arm in self defense, there’s a good chance you will be fired on by law enforcement?


14 posted on 05/09/2015 12:16:02 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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Blacks just don’t have any experience with the police and don’t know how responde to them.


15 posted on 05/09/2015 1:53:32 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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You betcha. If you’re a cop and arrive on a site where it was reported shots were fired by black males, and you’re suddenly confronted by a black male holding a gun, would you assume he was a criminal or a good guy? If you assume wrong, what are your chances of getting shot?

I’m always amused by cop shows where the detectives, often in undercover type clothes, chase bad guys down city streets and somehow all involved seem to know which are cops and which are perps, including uniforms that randomly show up.

Friendly fire or its potential is a huge problem in any armed encounter. If you are armed and call the cops, how you are going to let them know you’re a good guy when they show up had better be a subject for serious thought.


16 posted on 05/09/2015 3:34:29 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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17 posted on 05/09/2015 4:33:28 AM PDT by upchuck (The current Federal Government is what the Founding Fathers tried to prevent. WAKE UP!! Amendment V)
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This is very regrettable but as you say, understandable. What really gets to me is the Brian Claunch story and others such as people being shot dead by officers on a drug raid at the wrong address. The Brian Claunch shooting really bothers me because almost no one knows about it and the reason no one knows is immediately obvious when you see a picture of Brian Claunch. Everyone in this country should be made aware that a man with one arm and one leg, sitting in a wheelchair in a nursing home was shot dead because he supposedly had hemmed an officer of the law into a corner of a room and was making threatening motions...with a BALL POINT PEN! We don’t need leos who cannot handle such a situation without committing legalized murder.


18 posted on 05/09/2015 6:01:30 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Racism is racism, regardless of the race of the racist.)
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GOOD GOD!!! I believe you but I must read on as you know how shocking it sounds!!


19 posted on 05/09/2015 6:03:59 AM PDT by dp0622
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Then Heyward, 26, appeared in the back doorway, holding a .40-caliber handgun that he'd been using to protect himself, Cannon said. One deputy, Keith Tyner, told him to drop it.

I think I see the problem here...Heyward, 26

Young black male with a gun in his hand not following a directive fast enough...

Unfortunately, the normal situation far too often, he is considered the perp...He was profiled wrong...

Dollars to donuts he was an older man, he would not have been shot..

20 posted on 05/09/2015 6:14:28 AM PDT by Popman (Christ Alone: My Cornerstone...)
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