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Saving Lives in Garland (and elsewhere): Practice at the range
American Thinker ^ | 5/8/12 | P.F. Nehlen

Posted on 05/08/2015 5:59:07 AM PDT by bestintxas

Range time and training are imperative. The Garland officer’s quick reaction and accuracy kept himself and others from being murdered in the name of Islam.

An analysis of the events surrounding the heroic actions of a 60-year old veteran officer demonstrates the importance of proficiency with your weapon. Closing the distance on the Muslim attackers, he brought his sidearm, a .45 caliber Glock handgun, to battle beginning at 20 yards, closing to something like 7-10 yards, successfully, in less than 15 seconds against a Kel-Tec SUB-2000 rifle.

According to the manufacturer:

“The SUB-2000 has a greatly enhanced accuracy and extended range compared to a handgun. The superior precision is also very useful against small or partially covered targets at shorter range. The amount of training to master the SUB-2000 is only a fraction of that required for a handgun. MSRP $409”

Reading the specs for the rifle, you learn that this particular weapon has an effective range of 150 yards – presumably in the hands of someone more skilled than either of the two Muslim jihadists, Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi who are now burning in hell’s eternal fire.

So, two dolts have “superior firepower” and are smoked. What can we conclude from the engagement? Training made the difference. This is a fact. Humans must be trained to step towards a superior attacker when human nature says create distance.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; garland
Proved superior firepower is not as effective as superior training in how to use a gun.

Result: 2 terrorists burning in hell.

1 posted on 05/08/2015 5:59:07 AM PDT by bestintxas
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To: bestintxas
Why not have both?


2 posted on 05/08/2015 6:00:51 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: bestintxas

They both had sub-2000’s? Neither had AK’s as first reported?


3 posted on 05/08/2015 6:07:25 AM PDT by ryan71 (Bibles, Beans and Bullets)
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To: bestintxas

“Funny” how mass media all screamed about Pam Geller, yet nobody questioned, not once, how these two wanna-be terrorists got their ‘assault rifles’.


4 posted on 05/08/2015 6:07:42 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: bestintxas

I quit competition pistol shooting, such as IDPA, when I realized that the gamed scenarios were directly counter to my natural reaction, which is to close the distance.

Ever since I was a young boy, when my fight button has gotten pushed, I react by pressing the engagement until the threat is gone. I believe in the Judo/Boyd principle of getting inside your enemies decision/reaction loop. Good bad or otherwise, its my natural reaction and I’ve decided to make the most of it.

My idea is that most people have the natural reaction to get down or take cover, to react. If I press the attack and close the ground in a gun fight, I’m more likely to get kill shots on target and the target is more likely to disengage, giving me the upper hand. Exceptions obviously exist, but I know what I’m going to do.


5 posted on 05/08/2015 6:10:18 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: bestintxas

I love this guy. Sixty years old, first tactical discharge with a sidearm. Two terrorists down with head shots. What a stud.


6 posted on 05/08/2015 6:29:18 AM PDT by jumpingcholla34 (.)
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To: bestintxas

Some people say ‘woohoo go Texas!’

It wasn’t because they were “in Texas”.
It wasn’t because they were “in America”.

It was because they encountered resistance from one man that was trained with a weapon.
It would happen anywhere in the world. When these thugs attack, they should be met immediately with resistance whether it be military, law enforcement, or an armed citizen.

One man.... threat neutralized.

Of course, being it was in Texas they were more likely to encounter such a man, but still.


7 posted on 05/08/2015 6:36:35 AM PDT by envisio (I ain't here long... I'm out of napalm and .22 bullets.)
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To: jumpingcholla34

My only disappointment is he didn’t NEED to do a Mozambique Drill on them. . . (grin)


8 posted on 05/08/2015 6:44:36 AM PDT by Salgak (Peace Through Superior Firepower. . . .)
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To: bestintxas

[img]http://www.basspro.com/Remington-UMC-S&W-40-Handgun-Ammo-Mega-Pack/product/64377[/img]

Bought 4 boxes yesterday in fact.


9 posted on 05/08/2015 7:18:17 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: SampleMan

There is some logic it what you say. In the army, you are taught to turn into an ambush and fight through it. You’re not exposed in the kill zone as long that way. Of course, a lot depends on the proficiency of your opponent.


10 posted on 05/08/2015 7:35:56 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: bestintxas

Firepower is rounds on target.

Spray and pray (”in sh’allah”) doesn’t count.


11 posted on 05/08/2015 7:38:05 AM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: SampleMan

Interesting.

The IDPA matches I participate in almost always involve advancing on targets, frequently requiring the competitor to shoot while moving.

Our local match director is an Iraq veteran. That may have something to do with it.


12 posted on 05/08/2015 7:41:01 AM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: bestintxas

I submit the following:

Close to Engage by nutnfancy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH3GV7EmzI4

It is about having the amalgamation of the individual and their chosen firearm, (NOT your’s or mine), with the resultant acquired knowledge of the machinery’s concise and repetitive functions, with A chosen loading and derived ballistic information, and the human confidence that the individual can deliver those projectiles, to the appointed place, at the appointed moment in time, sucessfully, and repetitively, without regard for the unexpected surprises, that are part of life in a violent world.

One small point ... in that historic Los Angeles bank robbery, with all those firearms abounding, it was a lowly Smith and Wesson Model 10 revolver, loaded with a lead semi-wadcutter hollow point, that finished the fight.


13 posted on 05/08/2015 8:37:28 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: SampleMan

Thanks, I will remember that if the future


14 posted on 05/08/2015 4:50:33 PM PDT by bestintxas (every time a RINO loses, a founding father gets his wings.)
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