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US Supreme Court: States can ban counselors from helping minors overcome same-sex attraction
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| 5/6/15
| Drew Belsky
Posted on 05/07/2015 10:39:47 AM PDT by wagglebee
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To: dp0622
But none who went through any kind of attempt to become straight turned out the better for it.How many do you know for a fact actually tried such therapy. There are many personal accounts of successful treatment, and many more that weren't fully successful but with no ill effects.
To: huldah1776
But it’s a lesser evil. So I have been told.
To: stephenjohnbanker
My niece an sister go to mass, and why I don't know. She (though I love her very much) teachers human sexuality and abortion must be included. They both see nothing wrong with Gay marriage.
funny thing is, when my faith was very low several times in fife, my sister told me she could not get by without her faith. That confused me. I am not bashing them. I love them I just don't get it. There have been times in my ie when I threw God out the window and did whatever I wanted (and boy did pay but good) and times when I adhered to my religion and confessed when I didn't. At no time did I make my own religion up
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posted on
05/07/2015 12:32:36 PM PDT
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dp0622
To: huldah1776
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posted on
05/07/2015 12:35:36 PM PDT
by
hosepipe
(This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
To: dp0622
The left teaches confusion. In the left’s view, there is no god and you are God simultaneously. As such, it is consistent for faith to sustain you in promoting abortion and anything else since faith can be whatever makes you feel good.
AKA Circular Logic.
To: wagglebee
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US Supreme Court: States can ban counselors from helping minors overcome same-sex attraction"
Heavy Hitters: Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2014http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.phpAmerican Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $60,949,129 [Democrat] 81% [Republican] 1%
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posted on
05/07/2015 12:36:35 PM PDT
by
familyop
(We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
To: hinckley buzzard
ah, I’m wrong like three times a day. This might be number 2 :)
I knew three guys who were messed up and had gone through it. But they might have been messed up anyway.
Let’s not forget that they are not all evil. Some of them are in hell with an urge that is like nothing else and unfortunately, it is a sin and they know it.
My uncle is eighty and never had sex!!!!!!!!!!! He told me he thinks of cutting it off sometimes to take the mental anguish away.
I told him it doesn’t work that way and he would still have urges.
Might will wait another 10 years and drop dead an get to heaven :)
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posted on
05/07/2015 12:37:47 PM PDT
by
dp0622
To: Norm Lenhart
Excellent point. Festivus was supposed to be a joke for a comedy show but it is all too real in many ways.
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posted on
05/07/2015 12:39:38 PM PDT
by
dp0622
To: wagglebee; All
"Hell, most of them seem to think that the states have "rights" and fail to see how dangerous it would actually be if states had rights." Are you aware that the constitutionally powerful states had not only established the constitutionally humbled federal government, but had also drafted the federal Constitution to deliberately limit (cripple) the federal governments powers, not vice versa as you seem to think?
Regarding your indefensible assertion about states rights, note that the congressional record shows that John Bingham, the main author of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment, had substantiated states' rights on several occasions.
To: dp0622
The left set about corrupting the concept of religion a long time ago but it wasn’t until the 80s that they really started ‘openly’ making headway. Oral Roberts/Swaggart/Bakker and that type twisted christianity into a knot and many people lost faith.
Human nature is that we want to believe there’s something more than ourselves. Leftism is all about the self, not the ‘for the children crap they talk about. So when the people returned to their faith, there were, as if by magic, thousands of leftist preachers waiting for them with all manner of new ‘Gospel’.
Since then more and more leftism has been embraced as ‘Godly’ and now the Pope is openly promoting communism and supporting Islam. The level of homosexuals in clergy of all denominations has always been high because they are predators.
Perfect storm.
To: wagglebee; Amendment10; stephenjohnbanker; xzins; P-Marlowe; trisham; EternalVigilance
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If anything, eliminating the 17th Amendment will make things WORSE because candidates for Senate will no longer have to deal with primaries, they can cut deals directly with the party bosses in the state legislatures."
Yes. In many locales, some of the most influential constituents rule over various matters without even being seen by other voters. It's also likely that some of them are getting surveillance data and reports on demand. Knowledge is power and can be used to get money, land, etc. They even have an illegitimate chain of command to local police.
I'm telling you people this, because I've stepped in it and stepped on special toes before. Don't hand even more control over your state and local governments to the kingpin constituents in the shadows.
Don't allow decades of television glamorization of public corruption affect your decisions. There's nothing glamorous about it in reality. It's a nightmare for many and may eventually lead to even much more violence (see Ukraine).
And see
comment #86.
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posted on
05/07/2015 1:13:44 PM PDT
by
familyop
(We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
To: wagglebee; Amendment10; stephenjohnbanker; xzins; P-Marlowe; trisham; EternalVigilance
The following is yet another constituency that wants easier control over senatorial elections. A repeal of the 17th Amendment would give them and the previously mentioned local bosses that extra control.
The following companies support the homosexual movement by funding their political terrorism:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3274821/posts
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posted on
05/07/2015 1:28:16 PM PDT
by
familyop
(We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
To: familyop
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posted on
05/07/2015 1:51:00 PM PDT
by
stephenjohnbanker
(My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
To: familyop; wagglebee; All
"In many locales, some of the most influential constituents rule over various matters without even being seen by other voters." With all due respect familypop, please consider the following. Regarding the 17th Amendment, you and wagglebee are seemingly overlooking the following major problem concerning the federal governments constitutionally limited powers.
You are either overlooking or ignoring that the corrupt federal Senate bas been wrongly overlooking that basically the only federal government service that the states have ever delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for with respect to intrastate issues is the US Mail Service (1.8.7).
So why dont you and wagglebee start working with state and federal lawmakers to propose amendments to the states, amendments which would actually give the feds the specific powers to do most of the vote-winning things that theyve been doing in the last 100+ years without the constitutional authority to do so.
To: Norm Lenhart
great post. Yeah what's with the pope and environmentalism, world income equality blah blah blah. Jesus didn't teach any of this. He wanted us to do good on our OWN, not be forced to
I saw a horrifying documentary on gays in the Church and it told how a group of bishops had an orgy with gay strippers right until they ha to get ready for mass.
Not bashing Catholicism, I am Catholic But when you make rules that attract those people, there are consequences.
Heck, the Hassidic community in Brooklyn has a Terrible pedophilia problem but if you try to bring it to light, you get acid thrown at you, which happened to one guy. And these people are ALLOWED to get married. Boy the world is crazy. And I apologize in advance if I offended anyone. And I could be wrong about some of these things. Like I said, happens several times a day :)
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05/07/2015 1:57:34 PM PDT
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dp0622
To: dp0622
Look up the recent articles on the KGB guy and Liberation theology. Specifially RE catholicism and South America.
I was raised RC and left over the crap there. Me and God do fine without middlemen.
To: Norm Lenhart
That’s the best reason for leaving New Jersey and other such legally perverse places.
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posted on
05/07/2015 2:02:43 PM PDT
by
yefragetuwrabrumuy
("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
To: Amendment10; wagglebee
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Low-information state lawmakers, lawmakers who evidently did not understand the federal governments constitutionally powers, basically did not know what they were doing when they caved in to the Progressive Movement agenda when they unthinkingly ratified that amendment."
Then it's obvious that they couldn't have been trusted to elect senators.
The state legislators of today are far worse than those of the past. They bow to their local bosses, who are the most "progressive" of the population. As poor as the general electorate has been at making choices, those legislators as a whole cannot be trusted to elect senators.
The flow of federal pork being sucked into their evil police state, public education, anti-competition and anti-private-property rights programs is more than enough of a problem. The Article V Convention is being pushed by bureaucrats, their government-linked, anti-competition business constituents and hordes of government employees and pensioners.
They're trying to further institute communism while calling it something else. And all the way, they're waving scary figureheads on banners in their hysterical attempt to herd others to destruction. Only morons could believe that Obama rules the world all by himself without noticing the hordes of witches and weirdos in both political parties pulling his strings.
They're screaming and waving an Obama flag at conservative voters to herd them toward communism. Watch them scream, "Obama, Obama...!" It's their rallying cry. Listen to those particularly more government-connected CPAs who count the recirculating debt and want more of it. "Obama! Obama!" There must be a conservative definition for such bizarre activity.
From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 :
Hysteria \Hys*te"ri*a\, n. [NL.: cf. F. hyst['e]rie. See
Hysteric.] (Med.)
A nervous affection, occurring almost exclusively in women,
in which the emotional and reflex excitability is
exaggerated, and the will power correspondingly diminished,
so that the patient loses control over the emotions, becomes
the victim of imaginary sensations, and often falls into
paroxism or fits.
[1913 Webster]
Note: The chief symptoms are convulsive, tossing movements of
the limbs and head, uncontrollable crying and laughing,
and a choking sensation as if a ball were lodged in the
throat. The affection presents the most varied
symptoms, often simulating those of the gravest
diseases, but generally curable by mental treatment
alone. Hysteric
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posted on
05/07/2015 2:03:06 PM PDT
by
familyop
(We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
To: Norm Lenhart
Which KGB guy? Thanks for the info. I have about five topics I am looking forward to reading up on thanks to freepers sending me stuff to read :)
I kind of keep some of my religious beliefs close to my vest as I am still new and don’t want to offend.
I wholeheartedly believe you and God are doing great on your own.
I’m one who kind of needs some structure to help me along. It’s a weakness and always has been.
I would LOVE to be able to ask theological questions that I find fascinating but am afraid I will get clobbered if I do. Have a good one!
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posted on
05/07/2015 2:06:01 PM PDT
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dp0622
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