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Freddie Gray’s Knife – Why is Prosecutor Claiming Unlawful Arrest?
Legal Insurrection ^ | May 2, 2015 | Andrew Branca

Posted on 05/02/2015 10:14:52 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Boomer
This will be used to cause unrest when the cops are found not guilty.

If they're tried between late October and early March the consequences will be considerably less violent.

81 posted on 05/02/2015 11:22:51 AM PDT by FredZarguna (On your deathbed you will receive total consciousness. So I got that goin' for me.)
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To: bert

“He was a known criminal and resisting and therefore dangerous.”

He was resisting? Says who? Not the officers, who said that he was arrested without force or incident.

Are you just making that up?


82 posted on 05/02/2015 11:23:10 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Paladin2
Possession of fertilizer with intent to open by switchblade?

Man, are you in trouble.

83 posted on 05/02/2015 11:24:47 AM PDT by FredZarguna (On your deathbed you will receive total consciousness. So I got that goin' for me.)
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To: JoeFromSidney
His running away constitutes reasonable suspicion but not probable cause. On reasonable suspicion they can question him and perform a superficial pat down. So they could have discovered the knife well within the parameters of what's allowed.

See, for example:

Running From the Police

84 posted on 05/02/2015 11:29:04 AM PDT by FredZarguna (On your deathbed you will receive total consciousness. So I got that goin' for me.)
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To: FreeReign; Kenny Bunk

I understand the argument for hassling habitual troublemakers in the interest of public order, but they’re not supposed to wind up near-dead before they reach the station. I wonder if the screwup was that Freddy was acting out, so they restrained his feet,. Without buckling him in, that could have made him more vulnerable to van stops and turns— he could easily trip and be unable to protect himself. Separate issue from the pocketknife beef, of course.


85 posted on 05/02/2015 11:30:51 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Boomer
Marshal Law right before the 2016 election

Image result for matt dillon gunsmoke

86 posted on 05/02/2015 11:32:23 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Yes, just like the rioters and looters will be held accountable.... oh wait


87 posted on 05/02/2015 11:33:03 AM PDT by GeronL (Clearly Cruz 2016)
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To: don-o

No, that’s Marshall Dillon.


88 posted on 05/02/2015 11:39:17 AM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the eGOP does not want you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mm people call it a sling blade. Mmm I call it a kaiser blade. Mmm


89 posted on 05/02/2015 11:39:37 AM PDT by Mercat (Release the HildeKraken)
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To: gogeo

Are you sure it’s not Martial Dillon?


90 posted on 05/02/2015 11:41:14 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Looks like sound analysis to me.

Switchblades have been illegal in most places since the gang wars of the 1950's (think West Side Story), which today's gang wars make look like child's play.

91 posted on 05/02/2015 11:43:05 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: NY.SS-Bar9
allowing the knife to open with a wrist flick or gravity,

Not in Virginia. Here in Virginia a legal knife can open with a wrist flick, a thumb flick or any other kind of flick. An illegal knife will open when simply held in a blade up at 90 degrees with no flick. That is, there is no bias of any sort to keep the knife from simply opening when held up. Thus a gravity knife almost always has a lock to keep it shut although other knives can also have locks to keep them shut.

92 posted on 05/02/2015 11:45:15 AM PDT by palmer (Net "neutrality" = Obama turning the internet into FlixNet)
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To: R_Kangel

It seems a definate possibility if not a liklihood.


93 posted on 05/02/2015 11:45:26 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Tamzee

Gray was not known to use heroin, only to deal it. The fact that it showed up in his Tox screen may mean that he swallowed what he had to keep from being found in possession. That would explain his problems breathing and his reported erratic behavior in the van.


94 posted on 05/02/2015 11:48:15 AM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“There’s a strong “anti-cop” contingent here....”

And they pretend to be conservatives.


95 posted on 05/02/2015 11:49:26 AM PDT by Gator113 (Cruz, Lee, and Sessions speak for me.... most anyone else is just noise.)
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To: jumpingcholla34

Well done.


96 posted on 05/02/2015 11:52:38 AM PDT by Gator113 (Cruz, Lee, and Sessions speak for me.... most anyone else is just noise.)
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To: humblegunner

....”If you run from the cops, expect to get your ass kicked”.....

They seem to either run or get in their faces like an ape pounding on his chest to show he’s tough.

Imo....trying to get the black population to integrate in this country will never work, here’s a comment in part from an individual who has followed the efforts of doing so for years....

....”Since 1965, when the elites opened America’s doors to the Third World, immigrants from Asia and India–people who are not white, not rich, and not “connected”–have quietly succeeded..... While the children of these people are winning spelling bees and getting top scores on the SAT, black “youths” are committing half the country’s violent crime–crime, which includes viciously punching random white people on the street for the thrill of it that has nothing to do with poverty.....

....The fundamental problem is that white people and black people are different. They differ intellectually and temperamentally. These differences result in “permanent social incompatibility.”

“White people aren’t out to get black people; they are just exhausted with them. They are exhausted by the social pathologies, the violence, the endless complaints, and the blind racial solidarity, the bottomless pit of grievances, the excuses, and the reflexive animosity.”

(If you go back in history they remain profoundly attached to their native history...a tribal people.... and I question greatly if they can ever be as American as they desire because the tribal instinct remains in their culture.)


97 posted on 05/02/2015 11:58:30 AM PDT by caww
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is a difference between a jack booted bully [ies] and a police officer[s]. Some can see the difference .


98 posted on 05/02/2015 12:01:15 PM PDT by sport
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To: Mase

I suspect she’ll take it to a grand jury if it looks like she’s not going to get the judge she wants for the prelim.

A grand jury gives her a chance to stretch out a weak case because the process allows her to make a one-sided presentation without fear of refutation, and to do it all in secrecy. At a prelim, on the other hand, the defense gets a chance, and a judge who feels the charges are bogus can throw out the case.

If the judge’s nickname isn’t some variation on the word “Hanging”, there’ll be a last minute direction change to the GJ.


99 posted on 05/02/2015 12:27:04 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: libbylu

The statement re drug testing made reference to the U of Maryland hospital, where he was taken for treatment. The ER probably did a screen. The actual tox test either isn’t back yet (likely), or is being kept secret. The thing is, the post-mortem test isn’t going to be much use. Lots of time for whatever was in his system to clear out, and lots of hospital drugs to be added.


100 posted on 05/02/2015 12:36:03 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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