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The Reverend Sharpton Calls for the Nationalization of Police --
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | May 1, 2015 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 05/01/2015 5:43:16 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: familyop
"They are trying to centralize all government power."

Which? Those in control of state and local governments (e.g., Baltimore) or those in control of the federal government?

The federal government. And they are already controlling what's going in Baltimore.

41 posted on 05/02/2015 3:01:20 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
And what of this?

Heavy Hitters: Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2014
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php
American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $60,949,129 [Democrat] 81% [Republican] 1%”

And many of the following in state and local governments receive federal pork, contracts, regulations against competition, etc.

Leviathan (Uncle Sam employs more people than you think)
National Review ^ | 02/03/2011 | Iain Murray
"...nearly 40 million Americans employed in some way by government."

And the Article V Convention scam?

Obviously, they're pushing for legal changes that would allow them to even more easily kill more dissidents and finish robbing what little remains of the real private sector.


42 posted on 05/02/2015 3:35:08 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop

If you can’t see how Obama and all the rest are trying to centralize and federalize government power then I can’t help you.


43 posted on 05/02/2015 4:08:33 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

Hillary Clinton did more of that than any other president with her many deals for federal pork to state and local governments, and she did it bipartisan support from local and state government interests (along with her sock puppet, Bill). Local government, federal government—same thing.


44 posted on 05/02/2015 4:43:19 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop
Hillary Clinton did more of that than any other president with her many deals for federal pork to state and local governments.....Local government, federal government—same thing.

You are making my point.

BTW when was Hillary president?

45 posted on 05/02/2015 4:45:15 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
Besides outlawing any and all productive, private activities with communistic laws and fees, here's what state and local governments do for us.

Former Cop Headed to Trial for Raping a Child While Other Officers Watched
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3222652/posts

Cop rape case highlights life-endangering outrage of ‘Only Ones’ mentality
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3036036/posts

Cop Accused Of Raping Daughter Released
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1378795/posts

(Nashville TN) Metro Police Officer Arrested For Sexual Battery
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2509213/posts

Police: Retired NYPD officer drugged, raped woman
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2163624/posts

HPD Officer Guilty in Rape Cases
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2712700/posts

‘Don’t Get Pulled Over’ Is Cop’s Stellar Advice To Women Afraid Of Getting Raped By Police
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3207348/posts

Texas Police Officer Used Abortion to Cover Up Raping a 14-Year-Old
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3189381/posts

NOPD Officer Accused Of Aggravated Rape
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1478832/posts

Children Stripped at New Philly Courthouse
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3230106/posts

In another post here, HS teaches kids what to do if stopped by police
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3230141/posts

Lesson to the socialist, bipartisan political/regulator class: don't step in the deep end with vain attempts at amateur propaganda. Federal government, local government: same thing.


46 posted on 05/02/2015 4:53:32 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: FreeReign
The managers of these companies, along with state, local and federal government employee and pensioner interests, support and control both political parties. Which party should we choose?

The following companies support the homosexual movement by funding their political terrorism:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3274821/posts


47 posted on 05/02/2015 5:00:46 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop
Lesson to the socialist, bipartisan political/regulator class: don't step in the deep end with vain attempts at amateur propaganda. Federal government, local government: same thing.

My local police and schools are currently governed better than how the federal government, governs things. If they weren't, I would either move to a different area, or I would stay and fight the corruption, and face a better chance of beating the corruption than if I had to fight the police and schools run at the federal government level.

My local and state taxes are too high. Since I haven't been able to change that, in a few years I will be moving to a different state and locality to try to resolve that problem.

If Obama and Sharpton had their way as this article states, they would take control of all government functions and make things worse. They want to federalize everything and that includes the police.

The opposite of that philosophy is what is represented in our Constitution . It limits federal government power and leaves government power to the states, and better yet, to the people. This idea is one of the basic principles that is defended on this website.

I don't think anybody here is saying that there isn't local government corruption and that we are guaranteed to beat corruption at all levels of government. If that's you think people are saying here, then you are setting up "amateur" strawman fallacy "propaganda".

The point is that to centralize government is not to make things overall, better. Overall it makes things worse.

When it comes to government centralization and federalization, are you on the side of the US Constitution or are you on the side of Obama and Rev. Sharpton??

Answer the question.

48 posted on 05/03/2015 8:56:16 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

The point is that to centralize government is not to make things overall, better. Overall it makes things worse.


If you have a good king, it works, but what are the chances of that.

Point being there is no guarantee with any type of government with the nature of man being what it is.............


49 posted on 05/03/2015 9:08:45 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: PeterPrinciple
I don't think anybody here is saying that there isn't local government corruption and that we are guaranteed to beat corruption at all levels of government.

Point being there is no guarantee with any type of government with the nature of man being what it is.............

Yes, I made that point. See above comment now in bold.

50 posted on 05/03/2015 9:13:17 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
Try to rebut this with honesty. And while you're at it, answer to the state and local regulations and fees that stand against families building and producing. It's all done with the help of federal funding.

This is my country, and I earned it. Anyone who suggests moving from any part of it to suit a bunch of crooks recently descended from Europe has my blessing to stay, start talking to like-minded Americans and make their locales more American. Anyone who wants to continue local, yocal, European style corruption should get out of my country and go back to theirs.

For the nearly powerless position of president, show me a candidate who has a solid record of cutting government spending on bad education, bad policing and bad regulations instead of spewing hysterical speech about powerless, celebrity figureheads and conspiracy theories. Such a candidate for cutting spending might be someone like Walker.

Better yet, show me a political party without queer, feminist, government-linked business and other pathological activists messing up a president's cabinet. Don't issue hysteria instead of cleaning it up. Just the facts, Ma'am. Then maybe a candidate like Walker can have a little more say as president.


51 posted on 05/03/2015 12:45:09 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop
You didn't answer the question.

Here it is again.

When it comes to government centralization and federalization, are you on the side of the US Constitution or are you on the side of Obama and Rev. Sharpton??

Answer the question.

52 posted on 05/03/2015 12:54:45 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: PeterPrinciple; FreeReign
"I don't think anybody here is saying that there isn't local government corruption and that we are guaranteed to beat corruption at all levels of government.

Point being there is no guarantee with any type of government with the nature of man being what it is.............
"

That's a foreign point of view. I'm an American who respects his forefathers. Let's beat the corruption.

Maybe I'm wasting my time here, so I'll be blunt. I'm tired of seeing so much crazy talk in political speech as a front for a mob of bipartisan commies and their pensioner helpers.

If you're serious about getting the most conservative president possible under the circumstances, try Walker. And allow him to have a supportive cabinet instead of a pack of man-haters and other creepy weirdos. Walker's probably the Republican Party's only chance. Teachers, police, regulatory officials and other government-supported folks will have to take pay, position and office haircuts sooner or later anyway. They should try to get real, productive jobs or start small manufacturing shops, while there's still time.

Default means small, weak government. And to answer the usual, lying argument against that, currency of real value doesn't grow on trees. It comes from agriculture, energy production and much manufacturing. Time is on our side ("our:" what remains of the real, nonpolitical private sector, preparing to produce again, as a hobby for now, of course).


53 posted on 05/03/2015 1:12:08 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: FreeReign
Do you really believe that you're going to violate and change my Constitution to suit the following? That includes all of the political folks involved, including the one or two black politicians that you pompously order real Americans to limit their focus to.

Heavy Hitters: Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2014
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php
American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $60,949,129 [Democrat] 81% [Republican] 1%”

Leviathan (Uncle Sam employs more people than you think)
National Review ^ | 02/03/2011 | Iain Murray
"...nearly 40 million Americans employed in some way by government."

More Than 101 Million Working Age Americans Do Not Have A Job
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3005481/posts

America’s Ruling Class — And the Perils of Revolution
http://spectator.org/articles/39326/americas-ruling-class-and-perils-revolution

The Fragmenting of the New Class Elites, or, Downward Mobility
http://volokh.com/2011/10/31/the-fragmenting-of-the-new-class-elites-or-downward-mobility/

Environmentalism and the Leisure Class
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2835601/posts

The New Upper Class and the Real Reason We Dislike Them
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2843575/posts

Are you a member of the political class?
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/08/are_you_a_member_of_the_politi.html

Downton’s Class System — and Ours: We have a ruling class that despises the free market and does...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3024119/posts

The War on Humans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWcEYYj_-rg


54 posted on 05/03/2015 1:37:19 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: FreeReign
I'll remind you that you're not my boss here.

The following companies support the homosexual movement by funding their political terrorism:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3274821/posts

I don't have to put up with that kind of office policy any more.


55 posted on 05/03/2015 1:39:40 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To all:

1. Avoid buying anything that you don’t really need. Live below your means.

2. Frequently study or work on a project to become more self-sufficient. Continuously design stealth where needed into good and honorable projects.

3. Learn and practice to manufacture something of necessity or good use as a hobby for now.

4. Avoid being distracted by dishonest and corrupt politics. Be nonpolitical for now.

5. Do what is healthy and good regardless of what vices stylish tyrants promote from their filthy bandwagons.

6. Exercise. Get in shape. Exercise with family. Exercise with friends. Develop high speed for victory!


56 posted on 05/03/2015 1:55:21 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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