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Does Anyone Remember When California Set Civilized Standards For the Rest of America?

Posted on 05/01/2015 10:23:11 AM PDT by pinochet

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To: Cowboy Bob

Back then, the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, the USA gave Mexico millions in GOLD to give up all claim to such lands. Mexico agreed. Several years later, we paid Mexico even more gold to give up the Gadsden Purchase area.

Mexico again agreed and now has NO CLAIM to the regions of the USA.


21 posted on 05/01/2015 11:35:33 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Some times you need more than six shots. Much more.)
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To: pinochet

Bttt.


22 posted on 05/01/2015 11:38:49 AM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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To: pinochet

Yes, years ago.

Max Rafferty, Gov. Reagan’s education commissioner, said that “I got a lot of letters suggesting that I go off somewhere and perform a biological impossibility.”


23 posted on 05/01/2015 11:44:13 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: MikeSteelBe
1,500 folks a day were moving to Texas for jobs.

No, that's just the number of undocumented Guatemalan kids.

24 posted on 05/01/2015 11:48:03 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: pinochet
Former Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm (D) really, REALLY wanted Michigan to be a kind of California Jr...as though being the Great State of Michigan wasn't good enough. This "epic fail" of a liberal (born in Canada) served two terms and when her time in office came to a close in 2010, she moved to CA and took a job at UC Berkeley.


25 posted on 05/01/2015 11:53:21 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Cowboy Bob
I thought California declared its independence from Mexico (only to be grabbed by the US the next day).

Many people are ignorant of history. They don't realize that there were many anglos living in California among the natives and Spanish (and Russians), and most didn't give a hoot about Mexico. Mexico had control for a while, if you can call it control (California was largely ignored by the Mexicans). The Spanish here in California worked with the anglos to declare independence from Mexico. General Mariano Vallejo played a large part by wanting California to become part of the USA, and became part of the new government, built a new capital in Vallejo named after him. Californians gladly became part of the USA. Also, California was not taken away, it was paid for after the war by treaty, where the USA paid almost $20 million to Mexico for territories lost. Which was a pretty good deal for Mexico, having lost the war they caused.

26 posted on 05/01/2015 12:05:54 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: pinochet

“The rest of America seemed to be like third world countries when compared to California.”

BS


27 posted on 05/01/2015 12:09:53 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: ansel12

Yeah, gee ansel12, everything was hunky dorry in your imagined “California-white-Protestant-paradise” until the hispanics showed up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watts_riots


28 posted on 05/01/2015 12:16:26 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: pinochet
Californians were also known as the trend-setters of America.

Trend-setters maybe. Arbiters of "civilized standards?" In California? You must be high.

29 posted on 05/01/2015 12:28:35 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Regulator
Lotsa my Nebraska relatives came on SP to LA

They should have stayed in Nebraska.

30 posted on 05/01/2015 12:30:24 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Clemenza

so what was wrong with tuition free JC’s I only had to pay for books and fee’s. Before WW2 how much did uncle sugar pay the defense “industry” ??


31 posted on 05/01/2015 12:34:58 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: pinochet

I’d say since around 1970, as the entertainment industry that is anchored there started hating the USA. If you want a pivotal event - Jane Fonda in Viet Nam.

Individually, celebrites mean nothing. Collectively, they have had a tremendous influence and not a positive one.


32 posted on 05/01/2015 12:41:03 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: pinochet
No, and I'm not Anglo-Saxon either.
33 posted on 05/01/2015 12:43:50 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (We need a conservative electable candidate in 2016)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

I was a young adult during the 80’s in the LA area too. Somehow as a single woman living alone with my dogs, I was able to purchase two homes in nice suburban neighborhoods in the city of Santa Clarita.

I don’t know any young woman now who can even dream of that.


34 posted on 05/01/2015 12:53:39 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: IronJack

LOL

Maybe so.

But LA was a paradise for about a century, Chinatown movies notwithstanding!

San Gabriel Valley and Orange County in particular.

There’s still peeps in Nebraska. Nice farms, most still the same ones they rented/bought/homesteaded in the 1860’s/70’s.


35 posted on 05/01/2015 12:56:42 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: ansel12

Tuesday night, my Jewish husband and I (Catholic) attended an event in which Dennis Prager was the keynote speaker. It was to promote the very brave and lone voice in the wilderness, Christians United For Israel organization in Tucson.

This morning, he and I spoke about being much beholden to the Evangelical Christians / Protestants for this country.


36 posted on 05/01/2015 12:56:55 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: roadcat
General Mariano Vallejo

Vallejo is an unknown hero. He was a real European liberal, what we now call "conservative".

Don't know that he gave up 250,000 acres in Sonoma all that willingly but he definitely wanted to be free and work with the Americans.

Treated badly at first but eventually regained his respect from the Anglo Californians.

37 posted on 05/01/2015 1:00:31 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: roadcat
Which was a pretty good deal for Mexico, having lost the war they caused.

And the US moving forces into the disputed Nueces Strip had nothing to do with it. Interestingly, the US had, 6 months earlier, tried to buy the Strip from Mexico, which would seem to be a concession that they didn't already own it.

38 posted on 05/01/2015 1:13:26 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels." --Tom Waits)
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To: vladimir998

Interesting spin you put on things, as FR’s most angry poster, most of us think that California has gone down hill since then.


39 posted on 05/01/2015 4:05:26 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: lulu16

There will never be another nation like what America was.


40 posted on 05/01/2015 4:11:07 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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