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To: caww
If you intended to make a point from that pic it has gone right over my head. One thing I wonder about is the claim out now that he hit his head on a bolt that caused his lethal injury. There sure shouldn't be any exposed bolts projecting out far enough to injure anyone and if there was there is liability in that.

But who knows if that's true or just another rumor thrown out for the masses.

17 posted on 04/30/2015 11:01:06 PM PDT by TigersEye (STONE COLD ZOMBIE SCOURGE)
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To: TigersEye

You would have thought it was more likely he would fall and hit the edge of the seats.


19 posted on 04/30/2015 11:05:03 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: TigersEye

Good grief, it’s a metal transport van, not a padded cell!!! It’s called critical thinking skills.


20 posted on 04/30/2015 11:06:22 PM PDT by MaxMax (Call the local GOP and ask how you can support CRUZ for POTUS, Make them talk!)
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To: TigersEye

On another site they said that if he was not secure, and with the slanted roof....he could have very well caused a spine injury....the bolts simply show that he was indeed hitting his head...there’s likely more than one on his head that shows he was thrashing himself around trying to injure himself.

I know people don’t want to believe he could do this...but this guy was more than irritated about being arrested...it is not unusual for habitual criminals to thrash themselves in order to injure so they can blame the police. It’s really quite possible he was doing this since he had a history of over 18 arrests.


23 posted on 04/30/2015 11:12:14 PM PDT by caww
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To: TigersEye

“Sources said the medical examiner found Gray’s catastrophic injury was caused when he slammed into the back of the police transport van, apparently breaking his neck; a head injury he sustained matches a bolt in the back of the van.”

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2015/04/breaking-news-no-evidence-found-that-freddie-gray-s-death-was-result-of-police-who-arrested-him-prob.html

This is an excerpt from the story released earlier.

I don’t think the examiner is saying that the bolt caused lethal injury, I think he is saying that a slam into the back wall of the van broke his neck, and those are injuries that killed him.

It seems like the examiner is saying the bolt caused an injury somewhere on his head that illustrates where his head contacted the back of the van and that it did contact the back of the van. Basically that the injury caused by the bolt to his head is evidence of the fall or slam that did kill him.

At least that is what I am getting out of that article.


25 posted on 04/30/2015 11:13:09 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: TigersEye

The point of the pic was to show there was no divider between sides. Don’t know if that’s the actual van though.


39 posted on 04/30/2015 11:37:57 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (Give me liberty or give me a cash settlement.)
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To: TigersEye

Sit back and examine the facts. This is a guy who was getting a disability related check for lead-paint exposure....so he had some health-related issues to start with. Nothing is clear about what the issues were. Second, arrested eighteen times....most for drugs. What kind of drugs? Third, on this occasion, he’s in a drug-infested area and thought to be buying drugs....and may have ingested some drugs prior to the cops grabbing him. Any possibility that he was on PCP?

Every single day....around the US....probably two thousand Americans find themselves detained by some city cops and placed in such a van. And this is the one and only guy who dies in the back of a cop van from neck injuries? There’s some other piece to this story that has yet to be told.


62 posted on 05/01/2015 2:08:14 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: TigersEye
If you intended to make a point from that pic it has gone right over my head. One thing I wonder about is the claim out now that he hit his head on a bolt that caused his lethal injury. There sure shouldn't be any exposed bolts projecting out far enough to injure anyone and if there was there is liability in that.

The bolt wasn't the cause of the death - breaking his neck was. The impression of the bolt head (probably a rounded/slotted head sticking out 1/8" or so) gave them the clue of the impact that caused the neck to break.

73 posted on 05/01/2015 4:01:02 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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