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1 posted on 04/29/2015 11:37:24 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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“First, it should begin with a clearly stated objective at the outset. It should be directly tied to U.S. national security,” he said. “Second, we should use overwhelming force to that objective. We should not have rules of engagement that tie the hands of our soldiers and sailors and airmen and Marines.”

The final point in the Cruz Doctrine is that the U.S. military should not be asked to help birth democratic societies.

“Third, we should get the heck out,” he said. “It is not the job of the U.S. military to engage in nation building to turn foreign countries into democratic utopias.”

THIS MAN GETS IT !!!

2 posted on 04/29/2015 11:44:38 AM PDT by celmak
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I like this guy.


3 posted on 04/29/2015 11:47:38 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Victim" -- some people eagerly take on the label because of the many advantages that come with it.)
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sounds very good indeed....
let’s hope we survive the next 21 months so we have opportunity to fix WashDC (and get the govt out of suppressing the American economy and jobs for American citizens)


4 posted on 04/29/2015 11:49:01 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (Another brilliantl- intelligent comment sent thru an amazingly-stupid spell c)
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Meanwhile, Walker is likely evolving an opinion. Jeb is somewhere babbling something in Spanish, while Paul is calling his dad.


6 posted on 04/29/2015 11:51:53 AM PDT by Gator113 (Cruz, Lee, and Sessions speak for me.... most anyone else is just noise.)
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Sounds a lot like my concept, except I add in a point between #1 and #2 where you overtly threaten the bad actors prior to actually obliterating them.

And then add a #4: Lather, rinse, repeat. This is important because it’s going to take a few tries before it sinks in that we as a country are serious, based on our recent history. It’s going to take a few passes through the model before the rest of the world understands that when we get to “threaten”, they’d better make corrective action before we move to “obliterate”.

So, my model is:

1. Articulate the U.S. national interest at stake
2. Give an ultimatum to those acting against that interest
3. Use overwhelming force to remove those acting against that interest
4. Get out
5. Repeat to the point where you never have to get past #2 again


8 posted on 04/29/2015 11:55:51 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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Cruz does get it and it’s not the first time he has espoused these ideas. He is out in front of rest of the pack of sometimes and faux conservative contenders.

Ignore the polls and Rove propaganda machine; he is the one to get behind.


9 posted on 04/29/2015 12:01:12 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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I have a tear in my eye I am so happy...!


10 posted on 04/29/2015 12:05:24 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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Number 3 is the killer.


11 posted on 04/29/2015 12:05:35 PM PDT by Wolfie
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That is twice now today that he has taken what the low information voter would see as the moderate position, which is actually the conservative position http://thehill.com/policy/technology/240383-cruz-stakes-out-spot-in-2016-patriot-act-fight . Excellent positioning to dispell the right-wing crazy narrative.


12 posted on 04/29/2015 12:07:29 PM PDT by wolfman23601
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Will the modern world "allow" the US to totally break a country and then just leave?

I don't see that they have a choice:)

13 posted on 04/29/2015 12:07:44 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Yes yes but the liberal wing of FR doesn’t want that. They want Flip, Rand and Rubio.

So thats likely what we will get.


15 posted on 04/29/2015 12:10:21 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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Cruz says “if and when U.S. military force is required,” it should only “proceed under three preconditions.” You might call it the “Cruz Doctrine.”

“First, it should begin with a clearly stated objective at the outset. It should be directly tied to U.S. national security,” he said. “Second, we should use overwhelming force to that objective. We should not have rules of engagement that tie the hands of our soldiers and sailors and airmen and Marines.”

The final point in the Cruz Doctrine is that the U.S. military should not be asked to help birth democratic societies.

“Third, we should get the heck out,” he said. “It is not the job of the U.S. military to engage in nation building to turn foreign countries into democratic utopias.”

YESSS!!! SHOUT THIS FROM THE ROOFTOPS!!!

24 posted on 04/29/2015 12:19:14 PM PDT by TADSLOS (A Ted Cruz Happy Warrior! GO TED!)
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Cruz Doctrine:

1) There must be a direct National Security interest
2) We must use overwhelming force
3) We must not nation build

I can support that.


25 posted on 04/29/2015 12:20:22 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (we also gave those who wished to destroy space to do that - Baltimore's Democrat Mayor)
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bfl


27 posted on 04/29/2015 12:24:18 PM PDT by krunkygirl (force multiplier in effect...)
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Bravo!


34 posted on 04/29/2015 12:53:03 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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"Cruz says he is a hawk on some issues, like preventing Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons."

If he can justify that being in war with Iran is in our interests, he can justify any incursion. The voice is the voice of Cruz but the words are the words of a neo-con.

36 posted on 04/29/2015 1:09:09 PM PDT by ex-snook (To conquer use Jesus, not bombs.)
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    Ted Cruz Ping!

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    Please beware, this is a high-volume ping list!

    CRUZ or LOSE!

72 posted on 04/29/2015 8:16:35 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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Ted Cruz ?

The Cherry on the Top of all your points and the “ Cruz Doctirne “ would be is to give the UN up to a year to get the hell out of America and set up shop elsewhere.

Ted Cruz as President ? Remove the UN from the USA, give them a eviction notice....

And when the USA national security is threatened, or our national interests are at stake, NO UN APPROVAL, we will act unilaterally.


73 posted on 04/29/2015 8:32:40 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (BeThe Keystone Pipe like ProjectR : build it already Congre)
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Cruz or Lose!


84 posted on 04/29/2015 9:48:46 PM PDT by luvie (All my heroes wear camos! Thank you David, Michael, Chris, Txradioguy, JJ, CMS, & ALL Vets, too!)
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And Cruz hits another one out of the park. This man is what this Country desperately needs!
87 posted on 04/30/2015 5:41:12 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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