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We will not obey:Christian leaders threaten civil disobedience if Supreme Court legalizes gay
FoxNews ^ | April 28, 2015 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 04/28/2015 7:46:39 PM PDT by Steelfish

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To: boycott

As will I. I’m just not optimistic about a moral uprising.

We haven’t done it yet. Why would anyone get off their couch now?

And even if we did go marching (peacefully) in the streets, what difference would it make?

None. It wouldn’t accomplish one thing.

We need to take serious action (not rioting) to really change this.


41 posted on 04/28/2015 9:32:26 PM PDT by Marie
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To: Steelfish

Cool!


42 posted on 04/28/2015 9:48:44 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: Marie

Not all victories are won in court or at the statehouse. With respect to abortion, lives are being saved. I know, because I’ve been a part of that. You can’t win the long fight in short bursts of Hollywood happy endings. We are winning the long fight because every day tens of thousands of ordinary foot soldiers keep fighting for individual lives, and for the hearts and minds of people who can be persuaded. We will never give up. We will never go away. We will never ever stop. Eventually we will outlast them, and suddenly it will be over.

I fully believe the same will be true in the marriage fight. We will suffer greatly in the early days. But it will not stop us. God will not tolerate evil indefinitely. If we stay in the game, and put our trust in Him and not men, eventually we will find we really were on the right side of history, because history belongs to God.

Peace,

SR


43 posted on 04/28/2015 10:06:43 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: boycott
"Threating the tax status of churches and religious schools is the “line in the sand.” This is unlike Hussein Obama’s “lines in the sand.”"

If we get to the point where the state threatens to punish churches for adhering to their own doctrines, we need to get in the streets. Frankly, we need to frighten them. That is the only thing they understand. They think they can bully Christians with impunity. That's why they kiss Muslims butts and insult us freely.
44 posted on 04/28/2015 10:27:43 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Springfield Reformer

We need to take meaningful action against this.

Yes. Keep talking. Yes. Protest. Yes. Definitely support those brave souls who a targeted in the fight.

But we’ve got to do more for THIS issue.

The nuclear family is THE foundation for a free people. That is why the Marxists work so hard to undermine and destroy it.

You have to isolate the individual so that they have nowhere to turn but the government.

The destruction of marriage began with the hetros. Yup. It’s our fault. No fault divorce. People being allowed to enter into the contract without understanding what they were actually signing up for. The notion of ‘romantic love’ vs a contractual obligation...

All of these things have been gutting the sanctity of the union for awhile now.

At this point, the only real hope I have is that the SCOTUS understands that by redefining marriage, they open the door to EVERYTHING else.


45 posted on 04/28/2015 10:40:09 PM PDT by Marie
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To: Tench_Coxe
People have proposed using this Revolutionary flag:
46 posted on 04/28/2015 11:49:52 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: kaehurowing

I just ordered one of these flags off the internet.

I figure I will start flying it from Memorial Day on.


47 posted on 04/29/2015 12:22:51 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Steelfish

Bump


48 posted on 04/29/2015 12:29:45 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Marie

Marie, plenty (as in a few thousand ) God fearing, life supporting Christians across the land, took a stand 24 years ago and risked arrest ......and yes it was against abortion.

But not enough people stood with us......not enough churches gathered steam......
.....and we knew......we knew......history would repeat itself.

And it has.......
.......but now it will involve even more of us.....who will not stand for tyranny and injustice.

These very leaders who are you’re reading about today........Graham, Dobson, etc.......stood with us then, too.


49 posted on 04/29/2015 2:20:20 AM PDT by Guenevere (If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do........Psalms 11:3)
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To: slumber1

Yeah jerk,all the gays wanted to do is visit their partners when they were sick in the hospital,that’s all they wanted,now look where we are.Give me a break


50 posted on 04/29/2015 3:59:24 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Steelfish
Of course the article didn't disclose the details of their plan on ‘civil disobedience’. But I SURE hope these leaders have solid action plans ahead of time.

I found this on Wikipedia

In a letter to P.K.Rao, dated September 10, 1935, Gandhi disputes that his idea of civil disobedience was derived from the writings of Thoreau:[18]

“ The statement that I had derived my idea of Civil Disobedience from the writings of Thoreau is wrong. The resistance to authority in South Africa was well advanced before I got the essay ... When I saw the title of Thoreau's great essay, I began to use his phrase to explain our struggle to the English readers. But I found that even "Civil Disobedience" failed to convey the full meaning of the struggle. I therefore adopted the phrase "Civil Resistance."

(Bold emphasis mine) We need to turn up a notch! IF not now, when and for what?

51 posted on 04/29/2015 4:55:18 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Steelfish
"We will not obey."

The Supreme Court does not make laws that people can then "disobey."

If a Supreme Court ruling says abortion is okay, how do I "not obey" that? I am already not having abortions. I'm not performing them either. Am I being disobedient to the Supreme Court ruling?

"Not obeying" a Supreme Court ruling seems pointless.

52 posted on 04/29/2015 4:56:05 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: Steelfish; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ...
In related news, LGBT is deeply saddened.

Combined General and Nanny State PING! and DANG!

53 posted on 04/29/2015 4:59:17 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Celebrate Holy Week by flogging a banker. It's what Jesus would have done.)
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To: Steelfish

I’ll sign it too.


54 posted on 04/29/2015 5:03:27 AM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: Steelfish

Amen!


55 posted on 04/29/2015 5:28:50 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Iron Munro

So?


56 posted on 04/29/2015 5:49:08 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Joann37

Absolutely and he is not politically correct. He says the truth and does not worry about blow back.

His Father was/is a wonderful man also...I may get in trouble for saying this, but I think Franklin is less worried about everybody liking him.


57 posted on 04/29/2015 6:30:54 AM PDT by Chauncey Uppercrust (TIME TO ROUND THE LITTLE BUGGERS UP (LGBT))
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To: GeronL
Roberts said. “I mean, if Sue loves Joe and Tom loves Joe, Sue can marry him and Tom can’t. And the difference is based upon their different sex. Why isn’t that a straightforward question of sexual discrimination?”

I don't know Roberts' motive in asking the question but I would have answered him that the question is not a straightforward question in any sense, of illegal discrimination or otherwise, because it tacitly assumes the very alien premise at issue; i.e., a re-definition of marriage without any basis or precedent in our laws or morality.

Cordially,

58 posted on 04/29/2015 6:44:50 AM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: C210N

bump for later


59 posted on 04/29/2015 6:50:43 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: Steelfish
Good for them!

I don't think the Supreme Court will legalize gay marriage directly. I think they will reject the argument that it's a Constitutional right under the equal protection clause.

But they'll probably legalize it through the back door, by saying that under the full faith and credit clause, every state must recognize gay marriages performed in other states.

So if it remain s illegal in your state, that's OK, but the gay couples will simply go to another state where it's been legalized and get married -- and then your state has to recognize them as married. Thus, de facto legalization throughout the country.

60 posted on 04/29/2015 6:52:38 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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