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Like the President and Hillary, My Views on Marriage Have Evolved
National Review ^ | 04/28/2015 | David French

Posted on 04/28/2015 7:23:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

’ve evolved. In the not-so-distant past, I held a view that has since proven to be oppressive, a view of the law and culture that I now see as stifling the rights of others and damaging the fabric of our families and our democracy.

I supported same-sex marriage.

The year was 2004, and I was a partner in a large commercial law firm. Despite working mainly in commercial, contract litigation, I’d cultivated a constitutional practice and represented a number of Christian ministries. So, when the Massachusetts supreme judicial court legalized gay marriage, a number of fellow Christians asked for my thoughts. And in a January 2004 op-ed in our local newspaper, I shared them.

While I can’t find the full piece online anymore, this excerpt should give you the flavor:

"Unfortunately, the conservative argument against gay marriage often reeks of hypocrisy. Our society stopped viewing marriage as a sacred (God-ordained) institution long ago. Since the invention of no-fault divorce laws, divorce rates have skyrocketed. Now, almost half of all marriages end in divorce."

I continued:

"For those who believe gay marriage is morally wrong for Biblical or other religious reasons, this decision changes nothing. Churches can still speak out against sexual immorality and can still choose not to perform gay weddings. The gay couple down the street in no way makes our own straight marriage more difficult or challenging, nor can any decision of any court of law change the definition of marriage in the eyes of God."

My thesis was rather simple: Since the advent of no-fault divorce, the secular definition of “marriage” had become nothing more than a voluntary arrangement less binding than a refrigerator warranty. Adding same-sex couples to that already thoroughly secular institution would be, at most, an incremental, largely irrelevant cultural and legal change.

I could not have been more wrong. Indeed, this sentence — “For those who believe gay marriage is morally wrong for Biblical or other religious reasons, this decision changes nothing” — may have been among the most inaccurate predictions in the history of punditry. As recent history decisively demonstrates, if you believe gay marriage is morally wrong, virtually everything is changing.

"Christians must lose their jobs, lose their businesses, and close their schools, unless they bend the knee to the sexual revolution."

As I noted in a piece last week, there is a concerted legal and cultural effort to not just carve out a legal space for same-sex couples but to essentially banish orthodox Christianity from public life — to treat it with the same respect that mainstream culture treats abhorrent ideologies like white supremacy. Christians must lose their jobs, lose their businesses, and close their schools, unless they bend the knee to the sexual revolution. Bonds of friendship and loyalty are meaningless if the cultural conservative holds the wrong view on same-sex marriage, and Christian clubs are vile discriminators if they simply want to be led by Christian leaders. In the “blue” sectors of America, particularly the academy, some Christians feel that they have to live under deep cover to protect their careers.

It’s important to understand that this wave of coercive intolerance is not mere aberrational excess but the natural and inevitable byproduct of grafting same-sex relationships into an institution that is a key building-block to civilization itself. Even in the face of strong sexual-revolution headwinds, our law and culture continue to not only protect marriage and incentivize marriage, it is still seen by hundreds of millions of Americans as the ideal family relationship. In other words, by grafting same-sex relationships into marriage, activists want their relationships to enjoy all the legal and cultural protections marriage has built up through millennia of human experience. To oppose “marriage” is to oppose civilization.

But marriage did not become an “ideal” or civilizational building-block by simply being the most intense and committed form of adult relationship. In fact, at its core, marriage is not about adults — or adult happiness — at all. It has been at the heart of every enduring world culture not because these cultures share the same faith, or share the same ideals about romantic love and adult happiness, but because life has long taught us cultures thrive when children are raised in stable, two-parent, mother-father homes. Indeed, spouses from many cultures would laugh at the notion that “happiness” or “romance” has anything to do with the nature and familial bond of their marriage.

I agree with the notion that gay couples should be able to make health-care decisions for each other, write each other into wills, solemnize their relationships if they wish, and otherwise enjoy many of the same bundle of rights enjoyed by heterosexual couples, but it is easy and simple enough to write those protections into law without changing the very definition and nature of marriage.

Cultures that have sought to alter marriage from its fundamental norms do not have a happy history. Polygamy has hardly proven conducive to enduring cultural strength, and when segments of the young American nation changed thousands of years of marriage traditions by injecting white supremacy into what was once a color-blind institution, it commandeered marriage into the unsustainable and ultimately ruinous practice of race-based chattel slavery and race-based economic, cultural, and legal discrimination.

But now we’re racing off on our own cultural experiment, one that began two generations ago when Baby Boomers decided they needed to shed their spouses at will, and continues now with the equally radical step of redefining who a “spouse” can be and re-ordering marriage to center completely and totally on adult emotional contentment. And we’re racing on despite the clear record that families who maintain the traditional bonds do far better — in aggregate — emotionally, socially, and economically than families who shun tradition to carve out their own definitions of “ideal.”

In 2004, I was wrong and Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were right. The definition of marriage should not change. In fact, Ms. Clinton was so right, that I’ll close by quoting her:

She said then:

"I believe that marriage is not just a bond but a sacred bond between a man and a woman. [It’s a] fundamental bedrock principle that exists between a man and a woman, going back into the mists of history as one of the founding, foundational institutions of history and humanity and civilization, and that its primary, principal role during those millennia has been the raising and socializing of children for the society into which they are to become adults."

Exactly right, Hillary. As I said once before when discussing my own intellectual journey, the tides of history and opinion are not irreversible. It’s not inevitable that everyone will follow the Obama/Clinton path to transform the very nature of this “foundational institution.” People can, in fact, move back towards time-tested tradition. I’m living proof.

— David French is an attorney and a staff writer at National Review.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; hillary; homosexualagenda; obama
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1 posted on 04/28/2015 7:23:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Ghey


2 posted on 04/28/2015 7:27:27 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: SeekAndFind

“one that began two generations ago when Baby Boomers decided they needed to shed their spouses at will...”

The no-fault revolution began before any baby-boomers were old enough to marry.


3 posted on 04/28/2015 7:29:03 AM PDT by Jim Noble (If you can't discriminate, you are not free)
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To: Jim Noble

I don’t care what they do to each other, just don’t ask me to participate baking cakes for them, etc. LEAVE ME ALONE!


4 posted on 04/28/2015 7:31:15 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ($$$$$ Don't Defund the Government...Defund Obama and his illegal policies $$$$$)
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To: SeekAndFind
In 2004, I was wrong and Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were right. The definition of marriage should not change. In fact, Ms. Clinton was so right, that I’ll close by quoting her:

She said then:

“I believe that marriage is not just a bond but a sacred bond between a man and a woman. [It’s a] fundamental bedrock principle that exists between a man and a woman, going back into the mists of history as one of the founding, foundational institutions of history and humanity and civilization, and that its primary, principal role during those millennia has been the raising and socializing of children for the society into which they are to become adults.”
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I hope Ted Cruz makes that line from Hillary come back to bite her big, fat rump!

5 posted on 04/28/2015 7:33:40 AM PDT by bramps (Even if I have to write it in, Ted Cruz is whom I'm voting for.)
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To: SeekAndFind

” Churches can still speak out against sexual immorality and can still choose not to perform gay weddings.”

For now. The gaystapo won’t allow it for long.


6 posted on 04/28/2015 7:33:58 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (True followers of Christ emulate Christ. True followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed.)
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To: SeekAndFind

You do not need to recognize marriage as a God-ordained institution to recognize that 100% of children come from heterosexual unions. Without that fact the government would have no interest in any kind of marriage. While heterosexual marriage may be imperfect, it is still the ideal that should be encouraged above all others. Liberals want the state to hold primary responsibility for children. It used to be that conservatives understood that families should hold primary responsibility and that gov’t was only a safety net for failure and tragedies.


7 posted on 04/28/2015 7:38:49 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: SeekAndFind

Good article but serves to illustrate the author is susceptible to ‘fads’ except in this case he sees ‘the fruit’ which is social tyranny.


8 posted on 04/28/2015 7:39:19 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m glad he admits he was wrong. However, it was always excruciatingly obvious that homosexual marriage was going to be used as a tool to attack Christians. Since he was unable to see it until he had his nose stuffed in the results, I don’t see much value to his opinions on anything.


9 posted on 04/28/2015 7:42:04 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

They won’t leave you alone. This began with “what two people do in the privacy of their own bedroom is nobody’s business.” It is now the business of school children who have to sit through lessons on this garbage. It is the business of government. It is the business of all businesses if they want to avoid court and high fines. You must approve or you will be punished.


10 posted on 04/28/2015 7:43:52 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: SeekAndFind

At least he is owning up to being wrong. I applaud his bravery in saying so.


11 posted on 04/28/2015 7:50:23 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Hostage

The author really doesn’t get it.

The issue here isn’t same sex marriage. It’s how opposition to same sex marriage can be used to justify the utter destruction of anyone holding that view.

The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution. If it wasn’t same sex marriage it would be something else.

Heck, in recent weeks I’ve seen, on social media, people espousing the view that “I support gay marriage but I think people who don’t support it shouldn’t be forced to bake cakes (etc)” get visciously attacked and threatened.


12 posted on 04/28/2015 7:51:29 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yeah, the author misses the point.
This really isn’t about gays or marriage at all.
It’s about finding the point of Christian resistance and criminalizing it.


13 posted on 04/28/2015 7:52:15 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

“You do not need to recognize marriage as a God-ordained institution to recognize that 100% of children come from heterosexual unions. Without that fact the government would have no interest in any kind of marriage”

Untrue.

Every society has rules to channel and regulate sexual expression, for reasons that should be obvious.

Indissoluble man-woman pair bonding, which all human societies have I common, is an important component of this universal phenomenon.


14 posted on 04/28/2015 7:54:21 AM PDT by Jim Noble (If you can't discriminate, you are not free)
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To: Jim Noble

I recognize it as God-orgained. But it is not required to recognize that in order to recognize that man-woman unions are special.

In the same way the heavens declare the glory of God, nature declares the uniqueness and specialness of heterosexuality through the children it produces. God wrote it into our genetic code and it can be seen whether we acknowledge Him or not.


15 posted on 04/28/2015 7:59:16 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Of course I agree.

I was pointing out that children are not the ONLY reason the state has an interest in marriage.


16 posted on 04/28/2015 8:05:39 AM PDT by Jim Noble (If you can't discriminate, you are not free)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, good on the writer for his frank admission about being wrong and failing to recognize that the slippery slope truly does exist. I wonder what other little slice of reality has escaped his notice while others were pointing out the nose on his face????


17 posted on 04/28/2015 8:10:02 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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I see. Well, while there may be other benefits to society in recognizing it, the core reason is about children, whether or not all heterosexual unions produce children. It is irrelevant that every heterosexual union does not produce children. The important thing is that every child comes from these unions, AND ONLY THESE UNIONS. Minus mom and dad, children become the responsibility of government. That is HUGH AND SERIES.


18 posted on 04/28/2015 8:12:29 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Male polygamy and female hypergamy, unregulated, will destroy any society.


19 posted on 04/28/2015 8:31:04 AM PDT by Jim Noble (If you can't discriminate, you are not free)
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To: SeekAndFind

The situation in Baltimore is precisely what you get when you routinely dismiss the importance of moral, stable, father-mother marriages that are devoted to rearing their children in loving, safe environments and instilling in them tried and true values. Involved Fathers are essential to controlling the sons of a family. I know, I reared two of them.

Leftist Democrats gave us the Detroit’s, St. Louis’s, Baltimore’s and many more. I am not too high on Republicans, but why ANYBODY would vote for a Democrat is inexplicable to me. It is obvious they have poisoned everything they touch.


20 posted on 04/28/2015 8:33:39 AM PDT by RatRipper (Obama has made me the slave of sluggards.)
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