Posted on 04/27/2015 2:13:46 AM PDT by markomalley
No, Mad Mo gave instructions in their book that anyone attempting to change the religion should be killed.
Islam has always been a religion of slavery and conquest.
There is no radical Islam.
There is just Islam.
Everything ISIS is doing is in their book. That IS Islam.
No.
Next question?
Have any of their “religious” tenants changed since the 7th century?
I believe the answer is written in history, so promoting reform, like peace on earth, is a waste of time, lives, and energy. If the sons of pig f’n dogs act out on their koranic scatology then kill them where you find them.
Christianity was reformed because the Church had (once again) gotten away from the Word of God and imposed institutions of Man as a higher authority, making “doctrine” to support their agenda along the way.
The Reformation was about getting back to the actual Word of Scripture.
Islam has the problem that they ARE ACTUALLY ACTING IN CONFORMITY WITH their “scripture”, so what do they “reform” to?
I wish Ayaan Hirsi Ali well in her exposing the ravages of Islam, but she is an atheist & this is what happens when atheists join the debate.
To atheists, ALL religions are human-generated constructs that can be flaked & formed and made into something better if only science, reason & logic (atheism’s trinity) are allowed to prevail in creating a new more benevolent order.
Needless to say this undercuts atheists’ ability to comprehend what drives the urge to believe for any pious religious person. If there is no such thing as the Divine, then the negatives of a religion are simply the result of disordered reasoning which can be gradually eliminated through rational discourse.
Pat Condell is supposed to be a great counterjihadist, but he holds Christianity in equal contempt & refrains from criticizing it only because he perceives it as not currently a retrograde force in the world. That he directs his rhetorical fire against the violence inherent in Islam is but cold comfort to Christian or Jewish believers. He is a cobelligerent, not an ally.
Those resist Islam best who know that the God of Creation is the God to call upon in the ongoing agressive war waged by those who worship a false god that they call Allah.
No. Next question.
Agree. Yes, Islam can be reformed, right after WWIII.
Reforming Islam is about like improving your septic tank by adding lots and lots of perfume.
No, it cannot. Satan, its creator will not permit it.
Maybe, with the sword.........
It is a fascinating and meticulously referenced look into why Sunni Moslims think the way they do. The author is most emphatic that the work applies ONLY to Sunni Islam.
Everything boils down to a doctrine battle fought roughly a thousand years ago. The side arguing for the Koran being created by Allah and there being limitations on Allah because of his nature lost. The side arguing that there are absolutely no limits on Allah and that the Koran has coexisted with Allah throughout all time won.
While this may not seem like a big deal to most non-Moslims, it is a big deal to Moslims and has far reaching ramifications which the author deals with in detail.
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“Can Islam be reformed?”
Short answer: No.
The “prophet” himself was an unregenerate killer. Islam is the fruit of an animal.
I think you’ve hit the bullseye. When all is said and done, you still have the “Prophet.” With him as the perfect example for mankind, don’t look for any progress along those lines.
>>>Do you want Judaism reformed? Christianity reformed? Why would muslim want Islam reformed. It is what it is. Nothing is going to change the basic after several centuries. Deal with it.<<<
Both Judaism and Christianity have reformed themselves several times since their founding. That’s the strength found in those religions. The knowledge that human beings are imperfect in our relationship to God should make the observant Jew or Christian deeply humble and modest, and when that is combined with faith and reverence, a person can experience profound change. That’s why Christianity eventually wiped out slavery, even though it’s accepted in the Bible. There’s Reform Jews. And Protestants.
In Islam, you believe that the Koran and the revealed word given to Mohammed is perfect and unchangeable, so it follows that your adherence to the Islam makes you perfect. There’s no need for improvement. As a result, you get insufferable monsters, and calls for death to anyone who strays a speck away from what is considered perfect.
Levin wrote about the corrosive impact of utopianism on societies in one of his books. Islam claims utopia. And here we are.
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