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To: onedoug
"If what is contained therein is somehow not seen as parts of the Law it codifies, then, IMHO, one could conclude that there is no United States of America, which it also clearly sets out."

The problem with the article is not that it cites the Preamble. I never brought that up. The problem with the article is that it is logically absurd. ie. Stupid.

Its argument is basically that because the Preamble mentions "posterity", that the Constitution itself, particularly the 14th Amendment, protects traditional marriage.

But the Preamble doesn't actually mention marriage. So to get to the article's conclusion one must believe that because the word "posterity" is used, the Constitution only protects husbands and wives, not only in regard to marriage, but in its entirety. And really, it's not husbands and wives, because again it doesn't mention marriage. It must be people that have children. That's who produces "posterity".

So the logical reasoning of this article is that all of the provisions in the Constitution protecting various individual rights, do not apply to anyone that hasn't produced a child.

Obviously this is absurd. The Constitution applies to everyone, regardless of how many children you have, and regardless of your marital status. The article is nonsense.

60 posted on 04/26/2015 10:18:27 PM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo
No, it cannot be merely “people who have children” because that is not posterity.

And you believe that the Constitution applies to everyone? John Adams did not.
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
Therefore, those who cannot be ruled by it must be punished by it.

So the logical reasoning of this article is that all of the provisions in the Constitution protecting various individual rights, do not apply to anyone that hasn’t produced a child. …
What is hard to understand about the phrase “to secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity”? Never mind the attack on traditional marriage in the form of so-called “SSM” being the opposite of a “blessing of liberty”. Logic requires including everything and making no omissions. Some people have been in the 31st state for just too long.
63 posted on 04/26/2015 11:02:56 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: mlo; onedoug; Olog-hai
The Constitution applies to everyone, regardless of how many children you have, and regardless of your marital status. The article is nonsense.

While the Constitution applies to all, licenses do not, and states have jurisdiction over who can receive a license.  Individual states can decide that a felon may marry a person of the opposite sex and that two homosexual lovers may be each granted a license to carry a firearm.  

Carrying a firearm allows enormous power that states do not want felons to have and it's good the states have this authority.  Likewise the privilege to marry includes a number of benefits that the state grants because the state needs families.   OK, so not all heterosexual unions produce offspring but most do, and there are some homosexual groups that produce young but that is as rare as elephants that live in trees.


65 posted on 04/27/2015 3:11:13 AM PDT by expat_panama
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