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Desalination plants aren't a good solution for California drought
LA Times ^ | April 25, 2015 | Michael Hiltzik

Posted on 04/25/2015 7:34:42 AM PDT by Mean Daddy

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To: oldplayer

Isn’t $7 Billion just for the first phase?


61 posted on 04/25/2015 10:29:38 AM PDT by stillfree? (Tagline? We don't need no stinking taglines!)
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To: Ben Ficklin

>>The biggest of all the projects was NAWAPA which would bring water from Alaska and British Columbia to the lower 48 and northern Mexico.

Lyndon LaRouche has been pushing for NAWAPA since 1982. But he’s been tarred and feathered as politically incorrect here on FR by knee jerk airheads who have never read a ding dong word he’s written.

http://archive.larouchepac.com/node/15628


62 posted on 04/25/2015 10:34:30 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: JimRed

the invaders of California from the North East are just as bad or worse than the illegals!!!


63 posted on 04/25/2015 11:41:15 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: hoosierham
"So why not just salt water aqueduct to the desalination plants located a mile or whatever inshore. Minimal view spoilage."

Why not erect thousands of windmills to provide power to the dasal plants?

64 posted on 04/25/2015 11:46:46 AM PDT by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
The city recently went out for bid on a contract to get the plant operational. The engineers estimate was $2,000,000 which is likely way too low.

I was contacted by the contractor to give cost estimates on some of the refurbishment work. After looking into it and preparing some estimates, it was clear that the work would be extensive. Some issues:

Original osmotic pressure (to drive the water through the membranes) was about 850 PSI. New membranes are less then half that.

Seawater intake pumps were located off shore and are submersibles. Those pumps are no longer build and no replacement was found, though they were still looking.

The computer system was state of the art in 1990 and used a new storage device (at the time): Floppy discs.

We decided not to pursue this project further, the headaches were not worth it and other companies are better suited for the required scope.

65 posted on 04/25/2015 12:52:05 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (If Hillary was running against Satan, I'd probably abstain.)
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66 posted on 04/25/2015 1:13:32 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Mean Daddy

“The least visible cost, of course, is environmental damage. Ocean inflows suck up and kill larval marine organisms”

Larval Marine Americans are protesting.


67 posted on 04/25/2015 2:37:01 PM PDT by Pelham (The refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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To: Mean Daddy

Or send five million Mexicans back.


68 posted on 04/25/2015 2:39:16 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: stillfree?

Isn’t $7 Billion just for the first phase?

Oh, just pick a number that sounds good. They have no idea and say whatever they think sounds best at the time.

Oldplayer


69 posted on 04/25/2015 2:39:42 PM PDT by oldplayer
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To: Mean Daddy

California has 17 desalination plants in the works, either partially constructed or through exploration and planning phases. The list of locations includes Bay Point, in the Delta, Redwood City, seven in Santa Cruz / Monterey Bay, Cambria, Oceaneo, Redondo Beach, Huntington Beach, Dana Point, Camp Pendleton, Oceanside and Carlsbad.

Carlsbad is the United States’ largest desalination plant is expected to produce 50 million gallons a day to 110,000 customers in San Diego County at an estimated cost of $1b.—Wikipedia


70 posted on 04/25/2015 2:41:54 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: Mean Daddy

That sounds a lot like “You can’t just drill your way to lower gas prices.”


71 posted on 04/25/2015 2:44:53 PM PDT by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

“But I Would be willing to bet the same author approves of a 100 billion dollar train to nowhere.”

He does. Michael Hiltzik is a mainstream Green and a Jerry Brown buttboy.


72 posted on 04/25/2015 2:56:45 PM PDT by Pelham (The refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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To: BenLurkin
This is what it comes down to. The rich snots don't want lose their million dollar views of the Pacific.

That is exactly correct. The same reason there are not Wind Farms on Cape Cod.

Moreover, I have seen first hand the desalination plants in Saudi Arabia. They are amazing - and they supply tons of water. We are not talking Star Trek technology here folks. They have been doing this for decades.

73 posted on 04/25/2015 6:10:54 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: PAR35

The Columbia River is much closer and has more water than California could ever dream of using.


74 posted on 04/25/2015 6:30:41 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Mean Daddy

Should get less water, not more. To hell with California. Hope it never rains or snows there again.


75 posted on 04/25/2015 7:11:01 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Reverse Wickard v Filburn (1942) - and - ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: DuncanWaring

Yes, but once you tear out all the dams (for the fishies) like the Greenies are demanding, it will be hard to capture that water.


76 posted on 04/25/2015 8:50:23 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Mean Daddy

The article (farticle?) offers no alternatives.


77 posted on 04/25/2015 10:17:09 PM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: dalereed
the invaders of California from the North East are just as bad or worse than the illegals!!!

A lot fewer in number, though; most of them flock to the Carolinas and Florida, taking their unfortunate voting habits with them and ruining those places.

78 posted on 04/26/2015 8:11:56 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & Ifwater the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Hot Tabasco
...no more sea salt potato chips.

Actually the evaporation residue would be pure sea salt, provided the salt water was properly filtered as added to the system.

79 posted on 04/26/2015 8:15:05 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & Ifwater the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Mean Daddy
The cost to build the plant is $1 billion?

The $68 billion to be spent on Governor Moonbeam's unneeded and unwanted high speed rail line would be better spent building 68 desal plants.

80 posted on 04/26/2015 12:28:27 PM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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