[Nervous Tick]

>> It wouldn’t happen.

I hear what you say and understand your logic — but elections no longer seem to be logical and rational.

Obama “wouldn’t happen” either. But it did. Twice.

[grania]

Obama happened because the elitist elements were able to manipulate the opposition nominations to McCain then Romney, whose agenda weren't all that much different.

If the current scheme of hillary vs Jeb falls apart, there's a chance (granted, a long shot) that we'll get a candidate that hasn't been compromised and conditioned, and cares about the future of the US.