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To: Sherman Logan

sorry but the facts are literally etched on stone. Men who were caught lying with a boy were stoned to death in ancient Athens. (this means Pericles reign etc) Adult males were exiled caught together were to be exiled for life.

They were considered “abnormal”.

The myth of acceptance was strictly a late 20th century academic creation of the university system.

An American academic who tried to argue alexander the great’s father (and by extension his son) were homosexuals had to flee for his life during his conference presentation.


41 posted on 04/22/2015 1:23:58 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
Here's Diodorus Siculus, writing between 60 and 30 BC, discussing the motivation for Phillip's assassination.

"A Macedonian, Pausanias by name, from the Orestis district, had been a member of the king's bodyguard. Because of his attractiveness, Philip became his lover. When Philip then turned his attentions elsewhere (to another man named Pausanias), the first Pausanias mocked the second by saying he was androgynous and promiscuous. Cut to the quick by this slur, the second Pausanias secured his own death in a sensational way, after confiding in Attalus what he was intending to do. For, some days later, during a battle with Pleurias, an Illyrian king, Pausanias shielded Philip's body with his own, and died from fatal wounds so received."

"The incident was widely reported. Attalus, a man of standing and influence in the court of Philip, thereupon invited the first Pausanias to dinner. Having gotten him drunk on undiluted wine, he then handed him over nearly unconscious to be raped by his mule-drivers. Pausanias, once sobered up, was deeply aggrieved by the assault on his person and denounced Attalus to the king. Philip, however, although outraged at the brutality of the deed, did not choose to bring Attalus to account because of their affiliation and because he had need of the man's services at the moment: Attalus was the [uncle] of Philip's new wife, Cleopatra, and, owing to his valor, had just been appointed general of the forward forces in Asia. Thus, Philip instead tried to quell Pausanias's justifiable rage over his injury by giving him gifts and elevating his position in the corps of his personal bodyguards."

http://www.holoka.com/diodorus%20on%20philip.htm

BTW, that modern Greeks are offended by claims that Philip or Alexander might have been bisexual proves exactly nothing about whether they were or not.

42 posted on 04/22/2015 1:44:05 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: longtermmemmory

At the same time, though, they weren’t so crazy about guys kissing guys, but according to the Greeks and a lot of cultures nowadays (Russia, Europe, etc.) A guy kissing another guy does not mean they are homosexual.


48 posted on 04/23/2015 4:42:07 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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