No, Senator Rubio, Homosexuals Aren't Born that Way

AFA ^ | Monday, April 20, 2015 | Bryan Fischer

[moehoward]

"I don't believe in the genetic factor either. The hormonal malfunction theory is the most logical to me. "

It's not genetic, it's hormonal ?

The registry testing of identical twins listed in post #3 indicate that it's highly unlikely sexual preference is determined in utero.

"Most stories about homosexuals I've read have them saying that at a very young age they felt different from people of their own sex."

It's probably fair to say that in those formative years ALL kids have moments of feeling "different" or not belonging. What seems to be lacking is parental involvement and particularly from the fathers.

[ek_hornbeck]

If it’s genetic, shouldn’t we be looking for the cure?

If it's genetic, the only cure would be through genetically engineering, i.e. replacing the genes that predispose people to homosexuality with normal genes in a fertilized human egg. If we could do that reliably, we'd also be able to prevent cystic fibrosis, Huntington's disease, hemophilia, and dozens of other genetic diseases.

[ek_hornbeck]

I think that the scientific jury (as opposed to media hype) is still out on the issue of whether there's a genetic predisposition to homosexuality. The condordance among twins could also be explained by what hormones the developing fetus is exposed to while in the uterus, for example. My best guess is that it's a combination of genetics, maternal hormone, and early socializing.

The real question isn't whether it's genetic or not, but whether it's so hard-wired in people's brains from an early age that it can't be changed. Given how many homosexuals have fought their urges and tried (and failed) to go straight with marriages and therapy, it seems to me that homosexual desire isn't something that's a choice or can be made to go away. The only "choice" is whether people act on those desires or not.

[stephenjohnbanker]

” If it were me I would turn the whole argument around and ask why we must grant civil rights to a new victim class who is/are defined solely by their claimed feelings, which is equivalent to civil rights for certain behaviors, ones that were always unacceptable. “

This is the way, and should have been from day one, but cowards prevailed, and here we are.

[driftless2]

Explain to me effeminate male homos and mannish female homos.

[DoughtyOne]

Thanks Help!

You folks must be right, because something sure doesn’t make sense if you’re not.

[DoughtyOne]

I don’t have much to say regarding your post. I think we all grasp for answers to understand this. I would probably be less supportive of the hard-wired concept. Hey, that’s just MO.

[moehoward]

"Explain to me effeminate male homos and mannish female homes."

No different than any other physical or emotional trait. Parental involvement is key in either nurturing or eliminating it. But even if it is present it does not guarantee a homosexual individual.

From post #3…
"75% of a sample of extremely “sissy” boys became homosexual when followed through to adulthood (10). But we must remember they were so sissy that parents were extremely concerned and referred them to the research clinic for help. Only a small percentage of sissy boys from the general population become homosexual as adults (11). This is even more true of other factors which have been researched and publicized in the media, and leads to a another important rule of thumb: “Only a small minority of those exposed to any predisposing factor become homosexual.”"

[driftless2]

Not a satisfactory explanation. I've seen no refutation of hormonal imbalances. In the study of identical twins, why on some occasions is one twin hetero and one homo? Why would one twin choose homosexuality over heterosexuality?

Just saying one decided to get into weird sex doesn't explain it. Hormonal imbalance sounds best. Good day to you sir.

[moehoward]

Keep in mind that if it’s hormonal -and the studies on that angle are far more contradictory- both fetuses would be exposed in twins.

Good day to you too.

[fr_freak]

Having someone claim that “they have always felt different” can mean anything. Plenty of kids go through some sort of turmoil or doubt or other issue which they imagine is unique to them. Someone who is living the homosexual lifesfyle could easily look back to such turmoil and say “that was what told me I was gay”, when it really had nothing to do with it.

As for the effeminate nature of gay men or the butch nature of lesbians, it has been my observation that, in most cases, those characteristics are forced and exaggerated, as if the person in question were trying to maintain an identity to justify his orientation. Additionally, I have seen far too many young men these days who are hetero and effeminate, suggesting that it is not necessarily associated with being gay.

[Captain Peter Blood]

Here is the question, Why is Rubio continuing to Put His Foot In His Mouth on this topic????????????

[bjorn14]

Our sin gene mutates in so many ways.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Back in the ‘80’s it was understood that more than 80% of homosexuals were victims of homosexual rape as children.

Half of all child rapes in the US are committed by homosexuals.

This is why it’s important that everyone believe that homosexuals are “born that way.” And why we can’t talk about it.

[Brown Deer]

For instance, why would a great looking guy like Rock Hudson choose an ugly guy like Jim Nabors to sodomize...

Or why would a successful young actor and singer like Jim Nabors choose an old man like Rock Hudson? That is, if you believe the story from well over 40 years ago that Rock Hudson was going to marry Gomer Pyle and his new name would be "Rock Pyle".



Why would a successful actor like Tom Arnold choose to marry a fat ugly repulsive woman like Roseanne Barr, when he could have sex with just about any Playmate that he wants?



If it was me back in the early 70s, and I was at a dinner party, given the choice of sitting at a table with Roseanne or Jim Nabors, I would have sat down with Gomer. I wouldn't have been able to eat, if I had to look at Roseanne across from me because it would have turned my stomach.

So why would Roy be attracted to Gomer?

His father, an auto mechanic, abandoned him as a child and he remembered his stepfather Wally as a marine. Roy was beaten on a regular basis by Wally and was usually "covered with bruises". His mother divorced Wally after Roy got two black eyes, but later remarried him. During WWII, Roy joined the Navy. Maybe that's where it began.

Gomer Pyle worked at Wally's Filling Station in Mayberry and later joined the marines. Maybe that was the attraction. ;-)

The more important question, is why would any man, choose another man's filthy ass over a woman? Do his looks even matter, when he's looking at his backside?

[driftless2]

I don't think Gomer made the choice. I think he felt he was lucky to latch on to Hudson who in his later years was still a lot better looking than hound dog-looking Gomer.

And apparently Arnold, after he became well known, wanted to have a threesome. Sounds like he used Roseann and then got tired of her.

As to your last point, why would any good looking man choose to bugger some guy's filthy backside over a woman? He'd have to be really weird. Which is what homosexuals are.

[Brown Deer]

I think he felt he was lucky to latch on to Hudson who in his later years was still a lot better looking...

Really? You seem to be a bit jealous of Nabors. ;-)

[butterdezillion]

Freepmail on the way.

[xzins]

Here is the question, Why is Rubio continuing to Put His Foot In His Mouth on this topic????????????

Because he's running to the middle.

[xzins]

Half of all child rapes in the US are committed by homosexuals.

I need that link for my files. Do you still have it?