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L.A. school district demands iPad refund from Apple
LA Times ^ | April 16, 2015 | Howard Blume

Posted on 04/17/2015 7:24:37 AM PDT by C19fan

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To: C19fan

Similar things happen in government and business all the time... People think that a new technology or a new system will fix their broken processes. It never works. New systems are great when the process already works. But a failing process will just fail faster and more catastrophically.


21 posted on 04/17/2015 8:27:30 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Star Traveler
Pearson will suffer ... Apple won’t ... :-) ...

That remains to be seen.

22 posted on 04/17/2015 8:28:05 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: C19fan

Waste of money. Should have gone with the much much cheaper and effective Chromebook route most schools are now leaning towards.


23 posted on 04/17/2015 8:29:11 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: tacticalogic

Yeah ... for a certain group of APPLE-HATER TROLLS on Free Republic, it “remains to be seen” when Apple is going out of business, too ... LOL ...


24 posted on 04/17/2015 8:30:58 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

They should have gone with Androids or Chromebook. iPads are a major pain in the butt. No folders, no coherent file/folder systems, no external storage, inability to sideload custom apps, and unnecessarily expensive in comparison.


25 posted on 04/17/2015 8:32:51 AM PDT by Phillyred
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Disclaimer - I have several years of educational testing in my background. In the past, I have actually worked on the CalSTAR state test assessment. LAUSD is an incredible beast of a district, with over 500k students. When I worked on it, the entire state had almost 5 millions kids being tested.

Back in the late 80’s I was amazed at how long it took to create test items. After an item is written it went thru extensive ‘field testing’. High level overview - each item is categorized as to what it measures, how well it measures it’s intended content, and how difficult it is. While that is going on (or sometimes before), the item is sent to educational specialists of different kinds to look at the item for any bias - racial, gender, socio-economic are among the factors checked. One things that I remember is sending the items to a professor at some Alaskan college to make sure that it wasn’t biased against any groups represented in that area. Extensive, and expensive.

I saw on another thread this morning that colleges are also dealing with testing in the digital age. Because of the cost, a lot of testing is still done on paper. Many schools don’t have either the hardware (iPads, PCs, etc) or maybe the network capacity to effectively (and timely) measure their students thru technology-based solutions.

When I took these tests, it was filling in a dot on an answer form. Now the items are much more complicated than that - simple multiple choice items are being replaced with all the capabilities the technology like iPads can offer...Should the items be a simple touch like multiple choice, or drag/drop multiple steps, or based on some game play...it is a lot more complex than it used to be...

Then you have to consider experience gaps. Some kids have access to technology from a young age and have grown up on computers - at school and at home. That is deemed completely unfair to kids in poorer districts, kids that don’t have the experience with the technology that places like California wants to use to do their testing and/or education supplementation.

You also have things like systemic cheating - see Atlanta in the news this past week.

It is an interesting field, and as long as the government has money, there will be people out there trying to collect...remember...it is for the children...


26 posted on 04/17/2015 8:33:53 AM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (Yes, I am happy to see you. But that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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To: Phillyred
iPads are a major pain in the butt.

Tim understands.

27 posted on 04/17/2015 8:36:41 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: Star Traveler

It remains to be seen for the caps-locked trollols, too.


28 posted on 04/17/2015 8:36:43 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Not to say anything about the APPLE-HATER TROLLS ... eh? ... :-) ...


29 posted on 04/17/2015 8:40:27 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
Not to say anything about the APPLE-HATER TROLLS ... eh? ... :-) ...

I left your smelly-assed flame bait where you dropped it, if that's what you mean.

30 posted on 04/17/2015 8:42:14 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Au contraire ... that foul smell always comes from APLLE-HATER TROLLS like you ... LOL ...


31 posted on 04/17/2015 8:43:41 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
Au contraire ... that foul smell always comes from APLLE-HATER TROLLS like you ... LOL ...

Gruber.

32 posted on 04/17/2015 8:46:18 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Star Traveler

Jeb Bush is bribed by Pearson. So are many other politicians around the country along with a radio host named Bill Bennett.


33 posted on 04/17/2015 8:47:54 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: tacticalogic

Alinsky ... :-) ...


34 posted on 04/17/2015 8:48:36 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: minnesota_bound

I’ve never personally seen anything from Pearson, and I now know that was a good thing ... :-) ...


35 posted on 04/17/2015 8:50:02 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: minnesota_bound

The schools could have done better by just bookmarking Wikipedia.....


36 posted on 04/17/2015 8:50:29 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: C19fan

An Amazon Kindle for $50 bucks.


37 posted on 04/17/2015 8:53:22 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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Alinsky ... :-) ...

would have approved of the smileys and LOLs.

38 posted on 04/17/2015 8:53:27 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Your fellow APPLE-HATER TROLLS definitely approve of your posts ... :-) ...


39 posted on 04/17/2015 8:54:47 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

No more laughing.


40 posted on 04/17/2015 8:54:56 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The FCC takeover of the internet will quickly become a means to censorship of dissent.)
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