Posted on 04/16/2015 11:10:26 AM PDT by rktman
I would like for Gov. Christie to explain to the masses why the 2nd amendment follows the first.
Until that happens, the fat ass liberal from New Jersey might as well sit down.
Ken, thanks for your interest. I have no interest in discussing this with you. I have told you what my opinion is. Just because you disagree, it doesn’t mean I have to take my time to debate this with you.
After countless times of debating this with people and there never being any common ground, it’s just pointless to start all over with you.
You are most welcome to think whatever you like of me.
Take care.
Please explain why a Constitutional Amendment was needed to ban alcohol but one is not needed to ban weed.
Take your time. I’ll wait.
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“. I don’t buy into that premise.”
Your premise is flawed. The Bill of Rights is not a buffet.
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Well thank you for your judgment Lurker.
Take care. Enjoy waiting.
That’s what I thought. No logic or reason to your argument whatsoever.
Just feelings. Nothing more than feelings. Another buffet conservative.
Sad.. Very, very sad.
Have a pleasant evening.
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>> “I don’t buy into that premise.” <<
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May your chains rest lightly...
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An armed citizenry is Public Safety!
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Snore time...
You guys are not making any headway here.
It is reasoned for there to be a unified drug policy across the 50 United States.
If you guys wish to disagree, that’s fine with me.
I disagree with you too. I’m sure you’re just shaking in your boots about that. Actually, you’re not, and now you know exactly what my condition is.
I’m not buying what you’re selling. Get over it, or learn to live with it.
I don’t want drugs available to any person what wants to take them. If this rubs you the wrong way, I’m sorry for you. It’s my take on it.
At some level there will be a certain class of people who should be unable to use drugs. This might ultimately center on Birth through 12th grade, generally the age of minors.
You guys big claim is that any regulation is a 10th Amendment violation. So it would also be a 10th Amendment violation to block minors from getting any drug they like.
Thus, there will always be a black market. There will always be criminals out there trying to sell their drugs.
No.
I don’t agree to everyone having access to any drug, and I don’t agree with NAMBLA that adults should be able to have sex with any consenting child.
Sorry. I’m not changing my mind on this.
Now you guys toss all the hissy fit you want without me.
Exactly!
What did Jesus say?
...Ah yes, “Physician, heal thyself!”
Christie needs to shaddap and get busy fixing the laws of New Jersey to allow the citizens to exercise their 2nd amendment rights. Everything else is talk.
The actual purpose of the second amendment is to guarantee the people's right to shoot agents of an out of control government. It was written by men who did just that. Remember that, Chris.
Christie is about as centrist toward gun control as Hitler was to the Jews.
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I don’t want pharmaceutical drugs available to any person.
Natural substances are a different story; they are gifts from God for our healing, and none of the government’s business. That fact is well established in the free exercise clause of the first ammendment.
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This is going to be a difference of opinion on a specific issue, one of natural growing substances. It’s probably more of simply throwing an alternative possibility out there, rather than a full disagreement, because I’m not absolutely sure on this.
I don’t know of the full effects of sin on plant life. We do know that Cain was told that plants would grow thorns and not produce as well as they used to.
I think it’s reasoned to believe that plants became smaller as man also became smaller. Life spans diminished. It’s possible that plants developed a byproduct that they weren’t originally designed to produce. I honestly don’t know the answer to this question.
Can we state with confidence that narcotics derived from plants were God’s plan all along? Maybe yes. Maybe no.
You can reference them as gifts from God. I don’t know if that is true or not.
Once again, should minors have access to this? It’s hard enough growing up with a level head during years when your body is changing rapidly.
Throwing narcotics into the mix is a tough sell if we’re trying to produce the best level-headed mentally balance kids we can.
If we’re talking about natural substances like vitamins, aloes and other beneficial medicinal products for healing, I’m a lot more in your camp on that.
I don’t want to the FDA to jump in with both feet and regulate vitamins and nutritional supplements. Generally these are things that you have to abuse substantially to get hurt by them.
At the same time, I don’t want idiots to be able to game the public by making bold claims that are untrue either.
If people are being hurt, then I think there needs to be an agency that steps in.
If there is not a real threat, and people believe that they are being helped, even if it is at least in part a placebo effect, I don’t necessarily have a problem with it.
The only things that should be totally regulated, are things that are a danger, or were developed by a research entity that deserves to be reimbursed for the discovery.
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Genesis 3:18
Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
I didn't see any maybe in there.
I note you didn’t want to address the dynamic I presented to you.
That’s why it’s a better course of action simply not to talk to you about this.
Genesis 3:18 is very early in the process, and the dynamic still remains, did plants remain true to their original designs from creation?
I don’t know that answer. I don’t think you do either.
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There is not one word in the Bible that suggests that plants changed.
That is a disingenuous rabbit trail.
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No, you’re simply afraid to face the possibility your “God provided it” theory may be flawed.
I don’t mind you mis-characterizing this to save your premise, but that’s all you’re doing.
You like to frame this as God intended us all to get high or He wouldn’t have provided this vegetation.
Did the effects of sin change the plant life in ways you don’t want to consider? It is possible? I don’t know any more than you do. And you don’t know either.
I question if God intended drugs to be a normal part of life in the Garden of Eden. If Adam or Even had been diminished in their capacity to reason, it would affect their decision making regarding eating from the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.
There is a serious question in my mind if drugs were part of God’s overall plan? I don’t think that is an unreasonable consideration.
The Bible doesn’t address every aspect of sin, and how it affected mankind and all of creation. The Bible would have to be many times large if it had.
This is pointless, this discussion. Why don’t you take your parting shot and I’ll call it a night.
Corpus, Jebediah and Marxo need to start their own party
There’s another party out there they agree with often.
It starts with a (D).
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