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To: colorado tanker; EternalVigilance; Hebrews 11:6; henkster; Homer_J_Simpson; dfwgator

Nobody except maybe Patton wanted a hot war with the Ruskies after an exhausting two-front world war. Nevertheless, I’m not sure how strongly FDR contended for Berlin at Yalta. I mean the U.S. isn’t interested in permanent occupation but the Ruskies sure were.

It should have been a hard negotiating point IMO, with what intelligence certainly should have known about Stalin’s brutality and millions of Russian deaths at his hands. Good intelligence also should have informed us of Russia’s basic weaknesses - an empty armored shell. Knowing those things should have given us negotiating leverage.

Our disinterest and their great interest probably made a difference, but I think it was a mistake to not try harder for Berlin, if not all of it, at least the western half of Germany running through the middle of Berlin instead of the foreseeable airlifts that had to come later.


42 posted on 04/16/2015 3:30:30 PM PDT by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: PapaNew; EternalVigilance; Hebrews 11:6; henkster; Homer_J_Simpson; dfwgator
We ended up with most of Berlin, as agreed.


45 posted on 04/16/2015 3:49:56 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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Roosevelt was at death’s door at Yalta, and he was surrounded by advisers who were, in my opinion, blind to who and what Stalin really was. To put it in the most charitable light I can, they naively trusted the word and goodwill of a tyrant and mass murderer.


47 posted on 04/16/2015 3:52:59 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Benjamin Franklin)
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