Posted on 04/15/2015 8:41:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
A follow-up to yesterday’s mini-bombshell from Byron York about what Rubio said in 2013. Skip to 3:15 below. To be fair, he never told York categorically that he’d let Obama’s order stand if elected president. What he said was, “I cannot imagine a scenario where a future president is going to take away the status they’re going to get.” If you want to pretend that that’s meaningfully distinct from what Rubio would do as president himself, have at it. The best spin that can be put on this, I think, is that Rubio lied to York at the time because he wanted to put pressure on righties to support the Gang of Eight bill. In other words, he didn’t sincerely believe that O’s order would be irreversible by a GOP successor but he wanted conservatives to believe it so that they’d panic and decide to accept half a loaf on immigration in the form of the Senate immigration bill. That wouldn’t be the first time Rubio used Obama in a sort of good cop/bad cop routine to get amnesty passed. If it makes you feel better to think that he was lying to righties two years ago to try to scare them into supporting comprehensive immigration reform rather than lying to them now about what he’ll do as president, again, have at it.
Here’s a more useful question than babbling about what Rubio really meant: How would a new Republican president, under tremendous pressure from the right to cancel O’s amnesty order and tremendous pressure from center-righties, Democrats, and Latinos to keep it intact, split the baby? The obvious solution, a la ObamaCare, is not merely to repeal but repeal and replace. Odds are very good that whoever ends up as GOP nominee, Ted Cruz included, will roll out an immigration plan early in the general election campaign that demands much stronger enforcement but also contemplates some form of legalization for illegals, including and especially those illegals who’ve already been covered by Obama’s most recent executive order. (The plan probably won’t allow a path to citizenship in the interest of keeping conservatives happy, but that’s a detail. Once legalization happens, citizenship will follow down the road inevitably.) That would allow the nominee to promise, truthfully, that ending Obama’s amnesty is a priority for him when he takes office while also placating amnesty fans by giving them a statutory route to keeping the basics of O’s plan in place. Righties will grumble, but if there’s ever a moment when they’d be willing to forgive some heresy on immigration, it’s as a pander to swing voters in the thick of a presidential race where Hillary Clinton stands to benefit if they revolt. That’s what Rubio’s counting on. I’d say it’s a smart bet.
Exit question: Is Jeb Bush really the Bush-iest candidate in the GOP field? The whole reason for Rubio’s candidacy, at least from the donor class’s perspective, is that he offers a Jeb-like policy program without any of the “Bush baggage” that’ll hurt Jeb in the general election. On the merits, though, there’s no one in the race, Jeb included, who’s more like Dubya than Rubio is. He backed comprehensive immigration reform, just as Bush 43 did; he’s the most loud-and-proud neoconservative in the field, a fact alluded to in his campaign slogan; and his boldest domestic initiative, his family-friendly tax reform plan, is a throwback to “compassionate conservatism.” Rubio said of Dubya in 2012, “George W. Bush, in my opinion, did a fantastic job as president over eight years,” a line you may see featured once or twice in Democratic (and Rand Paul) attack ads over the next year. I keep imagining a debate between Rubio and Hillary where he echoes the “yesterday is over” theme from his campaign launch by warning voters that they shouldn’t want to return to the White House of twenty years ago — whereupon Hillary retorts that they really shouldn’t want to return to the White House of ten years ago. “A return to Bush” will be the main Democratic line of attack on Republican nominees for years to come, but in Rubio’s case, as new conservative wine in old Republican bottles, it really might have some bite.
Rubio says one thing to MSNBC and something else to FNC.
Actually the question they should all be asked is exactly what they would do with those here illegally, including those under Obama’s order, and those who are now adults who have been here since before Kindergarten, maybe don’t even know Spanish...
They might as well be asked now rather than in a debate with Hillary.
“Rubio says one thing to MSNBC and something else to FNC.”
100% certified pure, organic WHORE.
I have noticed he’s popular on FNC, he wins most of the chips on Special Report’s round table.
They seem to think he’s our best bed against Hillary.
He's (Rubio) is just another GOPe's establishment slut.
” They seem to think he’s our best bed against Hillary.”
Best BED?
Yeah, that is what the FNC chicks have on their minds.
LOL
Mitten’s training has sunk in well for the young grasshopper.
” He’s (Rubio) is just another GOPe’s establishment slut. “
I called him Hispanic Vote Slut, but the two are one and the same, goal wise.
But he’s young and fresh with new ideas, Hillary is the past...
“on the one hand, on the other hand”
“But he’s young and fresh with new ideas, Hillary is the past...”
The only difference between a young whore and an old whore is the mileage on the odometer.
We gotta get that on a bumper sticker.
For me, if it comes down to Hillary vs Rubio, I will not hesitate to pull the lever for the latter.
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Hear! Hear! Myself. I agree with your Post #34 entirely. We Conservatives must face reality and deal with it in the best possible light. I’d vote for any Republican before I’d vote for a DemocRAT. Many Conservatives and 50% of Evangelical Christians stayed home in 2012, refusing to vote for the Moderate Mormon and gave B. Hussein Obama 4 more years with his unmitigated gall, and unbridled power, to destroy this nation. If Hillary or some other left-wing, Saul Alinsky disciple takes over the Oval Office in 2017, I’m giving up. I’m just gonna ride this thing out until Jesus comes or I go.
Marco Rubio-—HISPANIC VOTE SLUT
We gotta get that on a bumper sticker.
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Heck yeah! Let’s alienate as many people as we can to insure that Hillary or Lizzie or some other left-wing radical takes over the White House in 2017.
Rubio is all about ambition and cashing in on his ethnicity. He can’t be trusted.
Its the primaries. Lets pick the most conservative candidate and get behind em and not declare defeat before the race has even started.
I voted for Rubio for the U.S> Senate.
I do not trust him any more.
” Heck yeah! Let’s alienate as many people as we can to insure that Hillary or Lizzie or some other left-wing radical takes over the White House in 2017.”
LOL...nice try
Marky Mark will be useful in splitting the GOPe vote.
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