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Dangers of a Hillary Clinton campaign: The disastrous centrism she desperately needs to avoid
Salon ^ | April 13, 2015 | Heather Digby Parton

Posted on 04/13/2015 5:08:36 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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They're closing ranks around Hillary because they see how thin the ice is.

April 12, 2015 - Slate: The Indispensable Hillary Clinton - Why she is more vital to the future of the Democratic Party than even Democrats realize.

......................"Today,” wrote Amy Walter of the Cook Political Report after the 2014 elections, “about 55 percent of all state legislative seats in the country are held by Republicans. That’s the largest share of GOP state legislators since the 1920s.” What’s more, “just 11 states have an all Democratic-controlled legislature,” and Democrats hold single-party control in just seven states. By contrast, “Republicans have a legislative majority in 30 states, including the battleground states of Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina,” and single-party control in most of the South.

Not only do Republicans stand to control the redistricting process in 2020—solidifying their majority in the House of Representatives—but they also have a huge farm team of new candidates. To that point, two of the brightest stars of the GOP’s 2014 class—Sens. Joni Ernst of Iowa and Thom Tillis of North Carolina—came from state legislatures. Democrats are less lucky. Their losses mean only a few places stand as incubators for progressive ideas, strategies, and candidates. Indeed, liberal counterparts to Republican governors such as Walker, New Jersey’s Chris Christie, Indiana’s Mike Pence, and Ohio’s John Kasich—ideologically motivated leaders with national profiles—don’t exist.

The simple fact is that even if everything goes well for Democrats in 2016, even if they hold the presidency and pick up the Senate as well, their long-term prospects are dire. After eight years in the White House, the party has atrophied, and given the partisan and demographic trends that are driving American politics—in particular, the demographic divergence in midterm and presidential elections—it’s not clear what Democrats can do to fix the problem.

Here’s where we are: Far more than its competitor, the Democratic Party is at a crossroads. At the moment, it’s being held together by its president and his potential successor, Hillary Clinton. But this obscures intraparty conflict and the extent to which the party is in desperate need of rebuilding for the second and third decades of the 21st century.

This, of course, is normal. After an eight-year term with the White House, an incumbent party is often exhausted. But with likely vacancies on an ideologically split Supreme Court—to say nothing of the programs of the Obama administration—the stakes for the next election are high. Winning the White House is absolutely vital for Democrats, and although Hillary Clinton is a great asset, she’s—potentially—their only one."

1 posted on 04/13/2015 5:08:36 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Somebody out there please, please find a way to deny her possession of the “Ruby Slippers”!


2 posted on 04/13/2015 5:14:38 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yeah, forget that Marxist Centrism, the Butcheress of Benghazi needs to go full bore for the Stalinism she so dearly loves.


3 posted on 04/13/2015 5:16:55 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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"On the economic front, they would also like to know if she has moved toward what the Progressive Change Campaign Committee has called “The Warren Agenda” which their members, and progressive groups generally, are urging Clinton to adopt as her own: ......."

The points which follow would cost trillions.

4 posted on 04/13/2015 5:22:12 AM PDT by circlecity
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“Creating more jobs: Making investments in roads, bridges, power grids, education, and research.”

I thought the great Ibama had that covered??? I mean unemployment is only 5.5%? I see no reason why big government needs to intervene. In fact, why do we even need big government if the private sector is running so smoothly?


5 posted on 04/13/2015 5:23:27 AM PDT by Leep (To put it in laymen's terms liberal/progressive ist coo coo.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“dirty energy companies”

ooo...i feel so dirty.


6 posted on 04/13/2015 5:26:48 AM PDT by Leep (To put it in laymen's terms liberal/progressive ist coo coo.)
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...the Democratic party subconsciously saw 2008 as The Big Primary when decided it would use its current national electoral advantage to bring the U.S. into the modern world and break the white male presidential paradigm with two historic candidacies.

Is that how they describe Soros spending a billion dollars to register illegals and scam the rubes? ;)

7 posted on 04/13/2015 5:30:08 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (Heteropatriarchal Capitalist)
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I was reading some comments on the lefty sites yesterday like Huffington, holy moley, you would think God himself announced he was running. I *cannot* believe there are so many people still out there that absolutely kiss the ass of this woman. She can do absolutely no wrong in their brain damaged minds, it’s all the fault of other people or Republicans, or the best “they are trying to damage her reputation because of sexism” Yes! Of course! It’s all sexism! Sexism made her delete 30,000 emails! Sexism allowed 4 Americans to die in Benghazi! Sexism makes her a pathological liar!


8 posted on 04/13/2015 5:31:22 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (B. Hussein Obama: 15 acts of Treason and counting.)
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It's Hillary or nothing for this pathetic party - they have no real prospects beyond her.


9 posted on 04/13/2015 5:34:00 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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That would be “re-defining” progressivism by making it into business friendly DLC centrism. We’ve been down that road before. These think tank technocrats have been selling these vaunted “public-private” partnerships since the early 90s when Bill Clinton first ran for office and we’re still dealing with crumbling infrastructure, poor education, soaring wealth inequality and stalled social mobility. At some point these people need to confront the fact that these ideas aren’t getting the job done.

Which people need to confront the fact that which ideas aren't getting the job done, again?

Given the spectacular disasters her brand of "progressivism" has created everywhere it has been tried, she should be more careful in the way she writes. Just blame it Republican racism, instead - that always works best. :)

10 posted on 04/13/2015 5:34:51 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (Heteropatriarchal Capitalist)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

We must run a principled CONSERVATIVE!!

Warm mush, establishment GOPe-ism WILL NOT WORK!!

Go Ted Cruz!


11 posted on 04/13/2015 5:43:01 AM PDT by G Larry (Obama Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Salon, on par with Mad Magazine.
This particulat article is so full of bullshit, nonsnese and outright lying that it can not even pass for decent satire...


12 posted on 04/13/2015 5:43:12 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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"Saul Alinsky is a beautiful patriot"

Centrism? What are they smoking over at "Slate"?

13 posted on 04/13/2015 5:44:59 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obama;A Low Grade Intellect With Even Lower Morals)
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The self-regard never ends with these people (?).

Bringing in additional tax revenue

Bringing? It's confiscated at the end of a literal or virtual gun. These aren't fallen leaves. Additional? Federal tax revenues continue to hit all-time highs with no sign of relief.

in a fair way

Oh God. This obsession with fairness and the misuse of the term. Sadly, there are millions like this writer who believe that the people at the DMV and IRS and sheriff's tax office are anomalies and that the nice, caring, loving, altruistic government bureaucrats operate in a secret location.

Closing corporate tax loopholes

Liberal definition of any remaining freedom whereby individuals or groups comply with the strict letter of the law but not in the way liberals would like: 'loophole.'

especially those that subsidize dirty energy companies like Big Oil.

What if we stop funding sure-fire losers like green energy? Instant savings, no dirt or loopholes involved.

Raising tax rates on the wealthiest Americans.

The wealthiest Americans won't care. They have enough wealth to move it around the world. They've always done it and always will. Dem leadership knows this - it's a shame idiot rank and file Dems do not.

Creating a financial transactions tax so that speculative trading is dis-incentivized

This is like saying 'I wish someone would invent the telephone.' It's here. It's been here. Capital gains anyone?

Speculative trading...is that anything like investing? Stock markets? Hello? Is this thing on? Everyone who buys securities is speculating including those purchasing municipal bonds that fund those lovely government projects.

And why is any government supposed to be involved in disincentivizing anything?

14 posted on 04/13/2015 5:53:27 AM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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PS - this Digby is a wacko among wackos even at Salon.


15 posted on 04/13/2015 5:56:17 AM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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Yes, she must avoid that disasterous centrism. Isn’t that just a reworded version of the bolsheviks’ credo “no enemies to the left”?


16 posted on 04/13/2015 6:06:15 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Yeah, forget that Marxist Centrism, the Butcheress of Benghazi needs to go full bore for the Stalinism she so dearly loves.

Hillary will be sure that they have the enemy that will rally them.

Us.

They don't have to love her, they just have to hate us.

17 posted on 04/13/2015 6:50:10 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
I was reading some comments on the lefty sites yesterday like Huffington, holy moley, you would think God himself announced he was running. I *cannot* believe there are so many people still out there that absolutely kiss the ass of this woman

The Democratic Party could run a cardboard box stamped "VOTE [D] HERE," and the lemmings would nod and do it. It's the turnout that they have to make happen. That's where it's falling apart - that and their bench is giving them little to choose from, candidates that can fool the average American.

18 posted on 04/13/2015 6:56:06 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: dead

What I just said in my last comment!

Bump!


19 posted on 04/13/2015 6:56:46 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: circlecity

‘embraced the new populist and internationalist mood of the present.’
Perhaps the UN will provide for their needs.
Electing Clinton would virtually destroy any semblance of economic freedom and individual liberty. What do conservatives work to ‘conserve’ after that’s gone?


20 posted on 04/13/2015 7:11:51 AM PDT by griswold3 (Just another unlicensed nonconformist in am dangerous Liberal world.)
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