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Handful of holdout tribes dig in against gay marriage
AP via Seatle Times ^ | 04/08/2015 | JONATHAN DREW and FELICIA FONSECA

Posted on 04/11/2015 7:48:23 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen

Even if a U.S. Supreme Court ruling this spring makes same-sex marriage the law of the land, it would leave pockets of the country where it isn’t likely to be recognized any time soon: the reservations of a handful of sovereign Native American tribes, including the nation’s two largest. --SNIP-- The Cherokee Nation in Oklahoma and the Navajo Nation, with about 300,000 members each, maintain decade-old laws that don’t recognize same-sex marriage. Neither tribe has shown much sign of shifting.

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1 posted on 04/11/2015 7:48:23 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen
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To: Kid Shelleen

Of course, some tribesmen are more open to the idea.

2 posted on 04/11/2015 7:52:55 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Victim" -- some people eagerly take on the label because of the many advantages that come with it.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Wvwn the most primitive tribes know homosexuality isn’t normal. Its not natural; its a perversion invented by people with too much time on their hands...


3 posted on 04/11/2015 7:54:43 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Kid Shelleen

Even the most primitive tribes know homosexuality isn’t normal. Its not natural; its a perversion invented by people with too much time on their hands...


4 posted on 04/11/2015 7:55:15 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Kid Shelleen

Count my “tribe” as a holdout too! Catholic.


5 posted on 04/11/2015 7:55:25 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Kid Shelleen

This could be interesting. I wonder if the gay lobby is going to start harassing the tribes. It’s one thing to go after Catholics and Protestants, but accusing Native Americans of homophobia is something else.


6 posted on 04/11/2015 7:59:34 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: Kid Shelleen

They need to appoint some of their own federal judges so it can be imposed against their will.


7 posted on 04/11/2015 8:02:09 AM PDT by Defiant (Making Stephy a news anchor is like making an arsonist the fire chief.)
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To: dowcaet

Liberal activists pit groups against each other. Why can’t we? :-)


8 posted on 04/11/2015 8:05:28 AM PDT by Twotone (Truth is hate to those who hate truth.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Yes, well thanks be to God for the Indians. And, for Oklahoma!

At least a minority who is prized by the Left, certainly not known as conservative, speaks out also, and not with a forked tongue, but with the simple truth.


9 posted on 04/11/2015 8:07:25 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: jsanders2001
Even the most primitive tribes know homosexuality isn’t normal.

It might be too difficult for a Harvard educated Community Organizer to understand how a nut and a bolt work or how the two different parts of a trailer hitch function together.

But doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand some basic principles of natural law and grasp the proper way and the wrong way of fitting some things together.


10 posted on 04/11/2015 8:09:18 AM PDT by Iron Munro (It IS as BAD as you think and they ARE out to get you.)
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To: jsanders2001
Wvwn the most primitive tribes know homosexuality isn’t normal. Its not natural; its a perversion invented by people with too much time on their hands...

Well, something on their hands, that's for sure...

[rimshot] Thank you! I'm here all week! Try the veal!

11 posted on 04/11/2015 8:11:27 AM PDT by COBOL2Java ("God save America" - we are at the dawn of a new dark age)
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To: Twotone

We know the gay mafia won’t stop until every American is forced to accept their lifestyle as mainstream. That said, picking a fight with Native Americans is one they might want to avoid.


12 posted on 04/11/2015 8:13:21 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: Kid Shelleen

Maybe Elizabeth Warren will talk them out of it.


13 posted on 04/11/2015 8:13:44 AM PDT by Argus
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To: dowcaet
I wonder if the gay lobby is going to start harassing the tribes

You already know the answer to that. I thought this was pretty big news but did not see much media coverage.
The gay lobby will not go to a Muslim bakery. The media will not interview a deacon from an AME church in the hood. They will not harass Native American councils. They won't attack National Black Church Initiative president Rev. Anthony Evans.
14 posted on 04/11/2015 8:14:03 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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Here is what the catechism says- and that is- what the Catholic Church says - about homosexuality. And the reference is certainly biblical as all of Catholicism is , namely, ref 141 Cf. Gen 191-29; Rom 12

No Member of the Church ire archly can change it, no priest pope or bishop, no school teacher, fallen away catholic, feminist nor anyone calling themselves Catholic, disagreeing with this for whatever reason can change this. No Supreme Court ruling can change catholic teaching

So I guess by tribe the author is hinting that she thinks she can change church teaching by shaming the church calling it tribal

When people state that their own wisdom is better than teaching that comes from the word of God the church warns against pride


15 posted on 04/11/2015 8:14:37 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Kid Shelleen
Early Spanish explorers came upon whole villages of "Sodomites" that had been kicked out of the other family oriented tribes.

<"Oh Little Big Man! You look tired! Won't you come into my ti-pi and resth on thoft furs? I will be your wife!"


16 posted on 04/11/2015 8:16:51 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( NEVER trust a politician with your firearm rights!)
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To: Kid Shelleen

It’s more than a “handful” of “tribes” who will never accept the falsehood of homosexual “marriage”. Pushback there will be.


17 posted on 04/11/2015 8:17:52 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Kid Shelleen

Didn’t the Osage or Pawnee tribes of Oklahoma recently embrace sodomite marriage?


18 posted on 04/11/2015 8:18:06 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( NEVER trust a politician with your firearm rights!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Oh yes that is her point. Two thousand year old antiquated primitive ignorant silly tribe. Go talk to your pope and set them all straight


19 posted on 04/11/2015 8:18:20 AM PDT by stanne
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Here’s what the Catechism says, and it’s under thaw section title.tge sixth commandment. That’s biblical, for those inclined to flame
And
141 Cf. Gen 191-29; Rom 12

Chastity and homosexuality

2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,141 tradition has always declared that “homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered.”142 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.

2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.


20 posted on 04/11/2015 8:22:28 AM PDT by stanne
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