Then you have to answer the question of what it is that gives a state the right to declare itself to be a different country and seize property that is denied to a county, a township, a city block, the Elks Club or you and your neighbor.
Your metaphor would be ridiculous if applied to the 13 Colonies and it is just as ridiculous when you attempt to apply it to the Independence movement of the Southern States.
The 13 Colonies never for a moment pretended that their actions were legal or claimed that the British had no right to oppose their rebellion. They new they were fighting a war of rebellion
You are an unserious debater. I could draw cartoon stick figures showing bombs and explosions to support my position too, but the fact remains that nobody was killed.
It's an absurd argument. If you spend 34 hours shooting 4000 guns at someone's house, setting it on fire with incendiary rounds, and they survive because they were hiding in the basement until they surrender, it's pretty disingenuous to claim that you really weren't trying to hurt anyone and just wanted them to leave.
Nor will you find, in all of the confederate correspondence, orders and reports, even the remotest indication that they were making an effort not to hurt anyone.
Then you have to answer the question of what it is that gives a state the right to declare itself to be a different country and seize property that is denied to a county, a township, a city block, the Elks Club or you and your neighbor.
On this I refer you to the Declaration of Independence. Perhaps you've heard of it?
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
The 13 Colonies never for a moment pretended that their actions were legal or claimed that the British had no right to oppose their rebellion. They new they were fighting a war of rebellion
Ah but they did. They absolutely thought that what they were doing was legal and in accordance with the Highest authority. Again, I give you the Declaration of Independence.
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
It's an absurd argument. If you spend 34 hours shooting 4000 guns at someone's house, setting it on fire with incendiary rounds, and they survive because they were hiding in the basement until they surrender, it's pretty disingenuous to claim that you really weren't trying to hurt anyone and just wanted them to leave.
It's a more unserious argument to believe you could do that and not kill anyone unless that is precisely what you were attempting to do. Walls can take a lot of bombardment. People can't.
Nor will you find, in all of the confederate correspondence, orders and reports, even the remotest indication that they were making an effort not to hurt anyone.
You may not have read the correspondence between Major Anderson and General Beauregard. It seemed quite civil to me. None of that childish "sturm and drang" like you bring to a discussion.