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How Education Policy Went Astray
The Atlantic ^ | 2015-04-10 | How Education Policy Went Astray Half a century ago, President Johnson passed a law—now known as No

Posted on 04/10/2015 9:41:21 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

Fifty years ago, on April 11, 1965, President Lyndon Johnson went back to his old schoolhouse next to the Pedernales River in Stonewall, Texas, to sign the Elementary and Secondary Education Act, also known as the ESEA. Kate Deadrich Loney, one of Johnson’s former schoolteachers, sat beside him, as did a group of Mexican Americans who were students of the president when he worked as a teacher.

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1 posted on 04/10/2015 9:41:21 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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Really, we need to be liberated from the clutches of social engineering that is happening in public schools. IT IS NOW TIME for a voucher system, let everyone make their own choice of what world view they want junior and little Sally to learn. Or stay at home and give the money to the parents to teach their own kids.


2 posted on 04/10/2015 9:43:57 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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All the way to the colleges who teach the teachers.


3 posted on 04/10/2015 9:44:49 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Teacher’s unions.


4 posted on 04/10/2015 9:47:53 AM PDT by Fido969
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At the time that Congress passed this education legislation, it was approving a slate of other domestic
programs to expand opportunities for the middle class, such as ...
For the middle class? BS. The only program that meets that description is Medicare.
5 posted on 04/10/2015 9:51:03 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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I hope we can have an honest conversation about the effects of the war on poverty programs . we are 50 years into that war, so enough time has passed that we can evaluate whether the goals set by LBJ and his liberals of the day are achieved.


6 posted on 04/10/2015 9:53:53 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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I hope we can have an honest conversation about the effects of the war on poverty programs.

That would be racist.

7 posted on 04/10/2015 9:57:06 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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We don’t hear, “Johnson lied, people died”. But his war on poverty killed the souls and ambitions of millions. It destroyed countless families. Changed the country forever. But liberals always get credit for their good intentions. The actual results are irrelevant to them, other then being able to help them justify even more money to spend on their destructive war.


8 posted on 04/10/2015 10:00:30 AM PDT by Nevadan
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” IT IS NOW TIME for a voucher system”

We have a good one in AZ, with the goal of eventually destroying the all leftist public schools.


9 posted on 04/10/2015 10:00:52 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Here's what happened and here's how to fix it.

Most people are ignorant about the purpose and role of the local school boards. The proper role is to represent the local taxpayers that foot the bill for the local schools.

Most local school boards are populated with professional educators that live in the local jurisdiction. That makes sense only if you are ignorant of the role of the school board.

This is like putting the fox in charge of the hen house!!

The way to fix the problem is to tell this to as many people as you can. Never, ever, ever vote for an educator to be on the board. It is best for local business owners to serve.

As the local school boards change, the entire education system will eventually follow.

10 posted on 04/10/2015 10:04:31 AM PDT by bankwalker (In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.)
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The Johnson administration was an ever flowing font of disaster for this nation.


11 posted on 04/10/2015 10:09:57 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: Dilbert San Diego
I hope we can have an honest conversation about the effects of the war on poverty programs . we are 50 years into that war, so enough time has passed that we can evaluate whether the goals set by LBJ and his liberals of the day are achieved.

21 trillion dollars spent on this "war" (otherwise known as the vote farming scheme for Democrats) and by every measure the nation is far worse off than it was in 1964.

12 posted on 04/10/2015 10:11:31 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: Nevadan
We don’t hear, “Johnson lied, people died”. But his war on poverty killed the souls and ambitions of millions. It destroyed countless families. Changed the country forever. But liberals always get credit for their good intentions. The actual results are irrelevant to them, other then being able to help them justify even more money to spend on their destructive war.

The reason they get credit instead of blame is because everyone who reports the "news" is a Liberal Democrat. They don't want to report on liberal failures throughout history because that would hurt their party.

13 posted on 04/10/2015 10:12:59 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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Easy answer. They stopped teaching children and started indoctrinating them. My kids never learned Geography, History, Mental Arithmetic etc. - basic stuff!


14 posted on 04/10/2015 10:17:25 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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He had to murder his predecessor to get into office. That tells you something right there.

It happened in Dallas. LBJ's home turf. One of his Texas political rivals had been assassinated in a similar manner.

It's not rocket surgery.

15 posted on 04/10/2015 10:18:53 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If obama speaks and th<uere is no one the<ire to hear it, is it still a lie?)
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Thank you for referencing that article E. Pluribus Unum. Please bear in mind that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

"Fifty years ago, on April 11, 1965, President Lyndon Johnson went back to his old schoolhouse next to the Pedernales River in Stonewall, Texas, to sign the Elementary and Secondary Education Act, also known as the ESEA."

The problem with the ESEA is this. The states have never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to decide policy, regulate, tax and spend for intrastate schools. All that the ESEA did was to open the door for indoctrination of school children by the unconstitutionally big federal government imo.

16 posted on 04/10/2015 10:44:19 AM PDT by Amendment10
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Local school boards don’t hire / fire teachers, set curriculum, buy books. They have no power.


17 posted on 04/10/2015 10:59:27 AM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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Education went into the dumpster when integrated schools were crammed down the population’s throat. Sorry, but that is irrefutable truth.


18 posted on 04/10/2015 11:19:03 AM PDT by jlindseyx42 (Namaste)
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set curriculum, buy books

that is a big part of the problem... that is my point ...

19 posted on 04/10/2015 11:35:23 AM PDT by bankwalker (In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.)
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