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Why we don't know how many Americans are killed by police (+video)
CSM ^ | 04/10/2015 | By Harry Bruinius

Posted on 04/10/2015 6:50:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

As the nation grapples with the latest incident of a police officer fatally shooting an unarmed black man – this time in South Carolina – many have asked a simple question: How often does this happen?

The answer is: No one knows for sure, exactly. Even the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s Uniform Crime Report, considered the gold standard of crime data since the 1930s, is in many ways out of date and flawed. The nation’s 18,000 law enforcement agencies are not required to compile data on officer-involved shootings.

At a time when shootings in North Charleston, S.C.; Ferguson, Mo.; and Madison, Wis., are raising awareness about the issue, such data would be crucially important to understanding where problem areas might be and how to address them, say many activists and analysts. Indeed, other police reforms, such as body cameras, independent investigations, and reforms to the grand jury system would all be of only limited value without transparent statistics, they say.

Ultimately, the only way forward, they add, is a federal law compelling police departments to compile the data and send it to the FBI. While there are no signs such a law is imminent, an array of smaller moves – together with the growing chorus of criticism – suggests there are the beginnings of movement on the issue.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: police; shootings
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1 posted on 04/10/2015 6:50:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Not to side-track this issue, but I just watched the Dash-Cam video on another web site. It shows movement in the passenger seat of the victim’s car. I looks like there is someone there.

Anyone else see this?


2 posted on 04/10/2015 6:57:58 AM PDT by Paisan
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To: SeekAndFind

With the latest couple of videos that have come out, one an officer blasting away at an unarmed guy running away from him and the fella on horseback, on the ground, hands behind his back being brutally beaten/kicked by no fewer than five cops....are the cops really here to serve and protect?

This year, there have been several officers for Harris county and Houston police departments indicted on providing protection for drug runners, rape, domestic assault. The list goes on.

Seriously out of control. If this could happen to them, it could happen to you or your son/daughter.


3 posted on 04/10/2015 7:02:30 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Paisan

Yes there is a passenger in the front seat. So far, it has not been disclosed if the person has been id’d or has been interviewed.


4 posted on 04/10/2015 7:05:15 AM PDT by kenmcg
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To: Paisan

where ARE all these videos ?


5 posted on 04/10/2015 7:05:49 AM PDT by knarf
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To: knarf

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/gap-remains-in-video-record-of-fatal-sc-police-shooting/ar-AAaGCwu


6 posted on 04/10/2015 7:08:26 AM PDT by Paisan
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To: SeekAndFind

Yet, these are all reported to the UN as part of the statistics that were used to show guns are the problem.


7 posted on 04/10/2015 7:11:45 AM PDT by dila813
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To: servantboy777
Seriously out of control. If this could happen to them, it could happen to you or your son/daughter.

The problems here are manifold, but I think the end game is the nationalization of the police, which idiots like James Clyburn have been advocating recently. Once they go that route, we'll have progressed past Weimar Germany and become Nazi Germany.

With every police department under the yoke of the Federal government, Americans can guarantee their servitude for generations.

8 posted on 04/10/2015 7:13:50 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Ultimately, the only way forward, they add, is a federal law

Anything to federalize the police.
9 posted on 04/10/2015 7:15:27 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: SeekAndFind
Ultimately, the only way forward, they add, is a federal law compelling police departments to compile the data and send it to the FBI.

This might help Sharpton's folks, but overall, it will be meaningless as long as Latinos are reported as whites.

10 posted on 04/10/2015 7:16:11 AM PDT by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: Paisan

Everyone knows that there was a passenger in the car, that was no secret.


11 posted on 04/10/2015 7:18:55 AM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I've seen several stories reporting that the FBI's Uniform Crime Reporting statistics are now basically useless for compiling crime data, especially since Holder has been AG.
It's also been alleged that some of the data is bogus!
12 posted on 04/10/2015 7:26:04 AM PDT by Larry381 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: rarestia

Only local people should control or change their police but it seems inevitable that in the worst neighborhoods they won’t change their police and they won’t change their own behavior.

It took republicans at the state level to appoint an effective police chief in Detroit and the people love him. He came from outside and wasn’t somebody’s politically connected cousin. Crime rates are falling across the board, response times are down to around 8 minutes from an hour or more. Best of all he’s encouraging people to arm and protect themselves.


13 posted on 04/10/2015 7:29:39 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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Oh yeah that's right...thousands of average citizens are gunned down daily by jackbooted, out-of-control police thugs wielding machine guns and flame-throwers. But it's all been covered up don't you see.

Yes, there's always going to be some rogue cops who go over the line. But to pretend that thousands of innocent, average citizens are terrorized and threatened with their lives by the leos daily is preposterous.

14 posted on 04/10/2015 7:35:10 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: servantboy777

Just wondering....how many police officers have been killed in the line of duty?


15 posted on 04/10/2015 7:35:57 AM PDT by Pirate Ragnar (Libs put feelings first and thought second.)
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To: SeekAndFind

How many Americans are killed by agents of the government?

You phrase it that way and you know why we don’t know.


16 posted on 04/10/2015 7:36:50 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Pirate Ragnar

#1 cause of officer in the line of duty deaths is traffic fatalities.


17 posted on 04/10/2015 7:38:04 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: rarestia

>>With every police department under the yoke of the Federal government, Americans can guarantee their servitude for generations<<

One of the reasons that these steroid freaks are getting by with this sort of stuff is they know citizens will not push back.

There is a point where folks will just say, “enough is enough”.


18 posted on 04/10/2015 7:42:08 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: cripplecreek

>>Anything to federalize the police<<

Some states/jurisdictions may buy into a federalization, but not sure some of your more conservative states like Texas, Montana, Alabama, Tennessee would go for it. Just a hunch.


19 posted on 04/10/2015 7:46:29 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: cripplecreek
Best of all he’s encouraging people to arm and protect themselves.

It amazes me how many chiefs are against this idea. Americans should be universally armed, IMO.

20 posted on 04/10/2015 7:47:17 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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