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A Right to Discriminate
Townhall.com ^ | April 8, 2015 | John Stossel

Posted on 04/08/2015 4:30:58 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 04/08/2015 4:30:58 AM PDT by Kaslin
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If you cannot discriminate, you are not free.


2 posted on 04/08/2015 4:32:00 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. .)
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3 posted on 04/08/2015 4:42:56 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Until the 1st amendment right to peacefully assemble (freedom of association) is restored, I would advise Christian bakeries / florists to create a service or offering targeted to the gay wedding community.

This offering should be of a witness nature. For example, a cake with the cross and the text of Leviticus 18:22 - “Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.”

Allow them to change the color of the frosting or the text and the type of cake. Do not offer custom wording on gay wedding cakes. In this manner, you are providing a service that addresses the needs of the gay community and technically meeting the letter of the law and at the same time providing a witness to God.

Florists can do a similar thing by providing an arraignment of dried flowers with a similar scripture. Not sure how a pizza parlor should respond.

I believe that it may be possible to limit your catering business to “club members”, charge a refundable $1 membership and then refuse membership after a background check. This would remove the catering portion from the public business.


4 posted on 04/08/2015 5:34:15 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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Bake me a cake, or go to jail!

Today it's jail. Tomorrow the camps.

5 posted on 04/08/2015 5:40:18 AM PDT by mykroar ("Never believe anything until it has been officially denied." - Otto von Bismarck)
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To: Kaslin
In a free country, bigots should have the right to be bigots. Americans should also have freedom of association.

Opposition to "gay marriage" has nothing to do with bigotry Mr. Stossel; it is about concern for the success of future generations, the children of these "families."

I'm so sick of this stupidity.

6 posted on 04/08/2015 6:09:35 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (ObamaCare IS Medicaid: They'll pull a sheet over your head and send you the bill.)
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Religious freedom is explicitly protected in the Constitution. Homosexual rights are not.


7 posted on 04/08/2015 6:11:29 AM PDT by caww
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To: Kaslin
In a free country, bigots should have the right to be bigots. Americans should also have freedom of association.

Freedom of association is an inalienable right. Why few conservatives complained as this right has been denied over the years I'll never no.

Tell a liberal that one should have the right to discriminate and they'll call you a bigot.

Tell some so-called conservatives the same and they will run away from the issue.

8 posted on 04/08/2015 6:30:39 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: mykroar
Did you ever read the Weather Underground Manifesto? It called for those who didn't capitulate to be put in re-education camps in the Southwest. After the ‘re-education’ training, if a person still didn't toe the line, they should be eliminated. Not joking. And Obama launched his political career in Bill Ayers living room.
9 posted on 04/08/2015 7:04:13 AM PDT by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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And people who are adhering to their religious teachings are not bigots, Mr Stossel!


10 posted on 04/08/2015 7:05:08 AM PDT by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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11 posted on 04/08/2015 7:15:33 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Abuse: what people do when they have run out of rational discourse.)
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To: Jim Noble; Kaslin
I absolutely agree that the right to discriminate--that is simply the right to make your own choices in your own affairs, rather than be dictated to by a Governmental bureaucracy--is the very essence of freedom. The pity is that so many self-styled Conservatives, today, have been brainwashed to the point that they do not see the obvious. (For more on the subject, see "Civil Rights" vs. American Liberty.)

But the writer really undermines his libertarian position by applying the term "bigot" to those who are really only asking to be let alone; to have their own preferences, not the Government's preferences--or the preferences of some agitation group.

He also looks ridiculous when he states this belief: "gay marriage is as valid as straight marriage." Anyone with intelligence enough to grasp what marriage has been all about in civilized nations for thousands of years, that is sanctifying the family formation & the procreation of the next generation; ought certainly to understand that that belief is absolutely unsustainable in the realm of reason & logic.

I generally respect what the writer has had to say on a great many subjects. But whatever his personal bias; he needs to recognize when reality trumps any one's wish list.

William Flax

12 posted on 04/08/2015 7:20:29 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Kaslin
Americans should also have freedom of association.

Absolutely!

If I am racist or anti-gay

Meaningless words without definition

the free market will punish me

Punish you for what? Maybe, but again without true definition this is meaningless rhetoric. Hell the 'free market' may reward your stance depending on what it is.

13 posted on 04/08/2015 7:29:18 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: originalbuckeye
And people who are adhering to their religious teachings are not bigots, Mr Stossel!

I don't know if Stossel meant that. I think Stossel is saying that we have a right to both bigoted and non bigoted discrimination. I don't think he identified that the adherence to religious teaching is the former.

14 posted on 04/08/2015 8:35:44 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: caww

EXACTLY!!!!!!


15 posted on 04/08/2015 8:38:30 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Jim Noble

The Constitution says I have Freedom of Association.

It also means that I have FREEDOM of NON-ASSOCIATION.


16 posted on 04/08/2015 8:39:46 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Kaslin

“A right to discriminate” does not mean that “It is right to discriminate.” That depends on particular situations.


17 posted on 04/08/2015 9:06:54 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Be afraid only of thoughtlessness and pusillanimity." ~ Pope John Paul II)
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To: FreeReign

In context, in between the other two sentences, it does sound like he is assigning the slur ‘bigot’ to those who have religious convictions.


18 posted on 04/08/2015 9:23:35 AM PDT by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: ridesthemiles
The Constitution says I have Freedom of Association.

It also means that I have FREEDOM of NON-ASSOCIATION.

Imma sue Taylor Swift into the poorhouse because she won't associate with me.

That'll show her.


19 posted on 04/08/2015 3:53:19 PM PDT by Rodamala
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Stossel should be thrown in jail for his intolerance, as shown by this article!


20 posted on 04/08/2015 11:12:36 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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