“We were a spiritual nation of Israel, not led by a man - but by The Spirit. We were a church sent into the wilderness for nurturing to maturity for the purpose of proclaiming the Gospel to the rest of the world without any hindering intervention of potentates or popes to restrain the Spirit leading the church.”
Of course, that is quite poetic, but not inspired. As such, it is an opinion. The country was certainly used by God as a sending source for missionaries to the world. Today, missionaries are coming here.
“To assume II Chronicles 7 has no application to our nation today - and if the exercise of doing verse 14 upon chastisement has no bearing on Our Father following His Word - is absurd.”
Well, it does not. There are other verses, some of which I gave you that say similar, but very different things.
“I’m thankful the Pastors of the First Great Awakening were smarter than we are, and understood the application of verse 14 in the context of “My People, called by My Name” and not ‘My People who are called Israel”.”
It is an interesting argument - that the Word of God means what “smart” people think it means... but of course it means what God said and that with a context and His promise and curses to Israel.
“The cornerstone of our Republic was built on the understanding we were already a self-governing people under God, and no other form of government aside from a Republic was capable of protecting a covenant relationship with people and God, protected by a limited government of men.”
Again, an interesting argument with which I agree. This is not a support for stealing from Israel that which was given to her by God.
“Regardless whether or not you would understand that to be a covenant that would have as much biblical application as it did when God spoke to Solomon about what a nation of His people should do when they are chastised for disobedience.”
Repentance is always correct. It “starts with the household of God.”
“A chastisement is coming. Whether this people who call themselves by His Name will humble themselves and seek His Face and repent of our wickedness, is yet to be seen.”
It will likely come. On that we will agree. God’s timetable is His alone.
How do you know whether or not pastors such as John Cotton, Wesley or Whitefield were not inspired to make those observations???
I for one certainly see the type/anti-type biblical application of the physical to the spiritual, as did they. They saw a nation in the wilderness not led by a cloud or pillar of fire, but by the Holy Spirit. Who are you to assert that was not an inspiration?
Clearly our foundations as a people and nation can be seen in the first fifteen verses of Deuteronomy 28. Or will you assert also that book only applied to Ancient Israel?
As such, it is an opinion.
That is the kind of pride that would assert Peter's vision was also 'just an opinion'.
Today, missionaries are coming here.
Not all of us. Some of us still go out to the nations where the Name of Christ has not been heard.
It is an interesting argument - that the Word of God means what “smart” people think it means
That's a great twist by an intellectually superior person. As a fool and simpleton, perhaps it would have been wiser if I used the term, 'more humble' to describe the intelligence of the Patriarchs of our nation that saw and understood what enlightened persons today do not see or understand.
This is not a support for stealing from Israel that which was given to her by God.
"Stealing"?? Ancient Israel is gone and lost. How is this "stealing"?? So God's blessings and cursings for obedience and disobedience are finite and can only be applied to specifically-stated persons or nations He declared them to?
Interesting.
Repentance is always correct. It “starts with the household of God.”
Considering the Patriarchs and Founders of our nation insisted that the church influence the culture in order for the nation to prosper - what you see happening today with our decline as a nation is a direct result of the curses you can read about in Deuteronomy 28 that I assume you assert only applied to ancient Israel.
God’s timetable is His alone.
Can we not read the signs of the times?