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To: INVAR

“So the concept and practice of national repentance and seeking God’s face after plague and calamity are visited upon a nation, only applies to Israel according to your interpretation of scripture?”

I suggest you slow down a bit and think a bit.

The specific passage - II Chronicles 7:14 - is God’s response to Solomon’s prayer and to understand God’s words to Solomon, you should read what Solomon prayed, which was all based on God’s covenant promises.

If you would like Scripture to base a general blessing that applies to all nations, read Ps. 1; Matt 6:33; Gal. 6:7–8; et al.

“This is why there is no repentance in the church in this country.”

I disagree that this is the root cause. The roots of lack of repentance in our country are far deeper.

We do not have a Christian nation. It certainly has deep Christian influence in its founding. Nor has God promised a Christian nation. He did promise a Jewish nation.


27 posted on 04/05/2015 8:14:45 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

We were a spiritual nation of Israel, not led by a man - but by The Spirit. We were a church sent into the wilderness for nurturing to maturity for the purpose of proclaiming the Gospel to the rest of the world without any hindering intervention of potentates or popes to restrain the Spirit leading the church.

To assume II Chronicles 7 has no application to our nation today - and if the exercise of doing verse 14 upon chastisement has no bearing on Our Father following His Word - is absurd.

I’m thankful the Pastors of the First Great Awakening were smarter than we are, and understood the application of verse 14 in the context of “My People, called by My Name” and not ‘My People who are called Israel”.

The cornerstone of our Republic was built on the understanding we were already a self-governing people under God, and no other form of government aside from a Republic was capable of protecting a covenant relationship with people and God, protected by a limited government of men.

Regardless whether or not you would understand that to be a covenant that would have as much biblical application as it did when God spoke to Solomon about what a nation of His people should do when they are chastised for disobedience.

A chastisement is coming. Whether this people who call themselves by His Name will humble themselves and seek His Face and repent of our wickedness, is yet to be seen.


30 posted on 04/05/2015 9:08:13 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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