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You clearly caused the drought in California, haters
Hotair ^ | 04/02/2015 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 04/02/2015 7:35:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Zathras
"Considering that most of CA water comes from Colorado and Nevada"

Less now than before. When the Co River was apportioned, the upper states did not need all of their share, so CA was allowed to use that until the upper states did need it, which was around 2006/2007.

That was a major event at the time and there were some serious conflicts between growers in the Imperial Irrigation District and the San Diego golf courses.

No doubt losing that water contributes to CA's problem today.

This includes a changing definition of "highest beneficial use".

No doubt that, previously, farming or watering stock was highest, but today, recreational water probably generates a bigger economic engine. Tourists wanting to golf, fish for trout or salmon, and down river boaters are willing to pay top dollar.

21 posted on 04/02/2015 9:15:30 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: yoe
I'll give you a Cadillac Desert Bump. But the second edition was better that the first edition.

Another good book is The Great Plains written by the Texas historian Walter Prescott Webb, and published in 1932. Its still in print today because many colleges use it as a text book.

Its not specifically about CA but the entire west, west of the 98th meridian. Its about the natural history and gives good explanations of water rights laws and range law.

What make CA so complicated is that there are 3 water rights doctrines in play: Prior Appropriation, Riparian, and Reserved.

22 posted on 04/02/2015 9:28:03 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Mastador1

Not with so many people, so much debt, so much corruption....there are answers to alleviate the drought( such as desalination) but the arrogant liberal enviromentalists won’t embrace those solutions...

A hallmark of spiritual judgment has been first the beffudling of the wisdom of the leaders. The book of 1st Chronicles speaks of God wanting to punish...the NATION or the people of Israel for their sins...so he allowed King David to be tempted by pride to order a census of a type that was forbidden under Jewish Law...even his main general tried to dissuade him from it. Thus when David did so a plague was brought on the people...but not on David. David as a leader had to repent for himself and intercede for the people before God’s hand was stayed.(Remember when Georgia had a drought some 10 years ago...the Dem Governor decided to publically pray for rain...there was a thunderstorm that night and after wards since Georgia’s water situation has been much better. Governor Moonbat of California perhaps had better try it like his Dem counterpart did in Ga...take a little humility...and do it. God just might take pity and help California in its situation and perhaps Moonbat will learn a thing or two.).

Another instance of such blindness was the story of a later king who increased the burdens on the people much greater than his evil Father had done(refusing to listen to the wise older men, but instead listened to his contemporary ‘swishy’ friends) thus causing a civil war and the split from Northern Israel and 10 of its tribes from Judah and Levi(who were priests of the temple and had no land inheritance).

Look at the performance of Secretary of State Kerry and you can readily see our nation has been given over to buffoons! (and I mean GIVEN OVER) Prep your self...the seas are going to be stormy!


23 posted on 04/02/2015 9:50:29 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (If Hitler, Nazi, OR...McCarthy are mentioned in an argument, then the arguement is over!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I suppose it would be hateful to mention Sodom and Gomorrah.
Far be it from me to be hateful so I won’t bring it up! : )


24 posted on 04/02/2015 10:04:30 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: mdmathis6

Look I just get sick and tired of the hammering of California, as if there aren’t liberals pulling the same crap or worse in other if not all states. Instead of people condemning other states they should look to dealing with the issues in their own, maybe then we will make some headway.


25 posted on 04/02/2015 10:09:27 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: yoe

“Marc Reisner’s Cadillac Desert”

A fine book. Read it about 20 years ago.

That was the book that pointed out that everything west of the 100w parallel in the US is a desert, excepting coastal northern California, Oregon and Washington.

Time to desalinate or move.


26 posted on 04/02/2015 10:28:47 AM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: Pride in the USA

ping


27 posted on 04/02/2015 10:38:30 AM PDT by lonevoice (Life is short. Make fun of it.)
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To: Jeff Chandler; Grampa Dave; whinecountry

I always said that only Jack Nicholson could carry a movie with a bandage on his nose half the time.


28 posted on 04/02/2015 10:41:42 AM PDT by freedomlover
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To: doug from upland
Send 5 million back to their home country and the water problem is solved.

Illegals use less than 1% of the water in California. Residential, non-landscape use is about 8% of total statewide use. By contrast, almonds and alfalfa, largely exported, are responsible for 25% of the water use in California each year. Blame illegals for a lot of problems, but the water shortage isn't one of them.

29 posted on 04/02/2015 10:46:30 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: Ben Ficklin
What make CA so complicated is that there are 3 water rights doctrines in play: Prior Appropriation, Riparian, and Reserved.

I once took a college course in California History, and we spent a fair amount of time on water rights. Come time for the final, I studied that stuff hard and had it down cold.

And it wasn't on the final.

Still a little annoyed, years later.

30 posted on 04/02/2015 10:49:46 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Here is some more math. Average water use per person per day in California is 180 gallons (per stats on the radio this morning). 5 million less users of water would save 900 million gallons per day. In a year, 328.5 billion gallons of water. That is not a drop in the bucket.


31 posted on 04/02/2015 10:53:41 AM PDT by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: SeekAndFind

If Governor Moonbeam was really interested in his legacy, instead of the billions of dollars he’s wasting on his bullet train to nowhere that nobody wants, he would spend that money on fast-tracking desalination plants. Then he could also feel good about combating the “rising seas” due to global warming.


32 posted on 04/02/2015 11:12:45 AM PDT by reformed_dem
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To: doug from upland
That is not a drop in the bucket.

First off, the 180 gallons a day includes landscape watering, which takes up more than half. Since I think we can agree that illegals don't tend to be watering their lawns, since they don't tend to live in single family homes, that brings the average down.

Here's the math: 80% of California water use goes to agricultural irrigation. That leaves 20% for residential. Of that 20, more than half goes to landscape watering, a good chunk of it to golf courses, particularly those in the Palm Springs area. That leaves about 8% of total annual use to actual household use--toilets, showers, etc. Illegals make up about 10% of the population, so about 0.8% of water, assuming that they use the same amount a water as, say, someone in Beverly Hills. Maybe not a drop in a bucket, but if they all disappeared tomorrow, it wouldn't solve the problem.

33 posted on 04/02/2015 1:01:54 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: freedomlover

Jack has many excellent movies.

We feel this was one of his best, if not the best.


34 posted on 04/02/2015 1:50:59 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will Sisi, Bibi, King Abdullah & ?, take out Isis in our White House, AG Dept, CIA, & State?)
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