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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
Thanks for the reply...appreciate your info.

Not sure the last point fits. If your bakery doesn't bake swastika-shaped pastries in the normal course of business, then the law is definitely on the side of the baker.

Dr. Floyd Ferris would have a field day with these laws.

8 posted on 03/31/2015 4:20:10 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi!)
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To: Night Hides Not

That’s still not quite it.

The idea is more like, the government can come in and commandeer your business and impress its particular mandate against you, in contravention to your specific Constitutional rights. Using their power, then, they can subjugate you and trample on your rights. That would be tyranny by any definition.

Compare the damages suffered in the bakery example. The NeoNazi has to go find another bakery from which he can order his pastries. I don’t think that’s such an onerous burden. Most towns have more than one bakery. Eventually he will find one cooperative bakery. But what if he had to drive 15 miles to another town for his pastries? That seems like a pretty ordinary inconvenience. Meanwhile, the baker has his Constitutional rights crushed and/or has the gov’t come in and commandeer his business. People pretty routinely go to court and achieve damage awards for having their Const rights thrashed. They do not go to court for having to drive 15 miles because one vendor happens to be out of stock or is closed for a family emergency on an otherwise business day.

How about: Could the government force a business owner who’s closed due to a family emergency or because he’s at his kid’s baseball game to make those pastries? (probably not, because he would appear to be closed to both gay or straight customers)

Suppose you sell surgical supplies and you object to abortion. Can you refuse to sell to Planned Parenthood?

All the law does is to prevent the govt from coming in and taking over your enterprise. You may still have to make your case in court, that your religion is deeply held. And that might (trust me, it WILL) cost you a bloody fortune. The law does not grant a right to discriminate against gays.

What I find so onerous is the idea that people are almost universal in their complete ignorance of the law and how eager they are to follow along with the media rampage against this. They cannot wait to surrender their 1st amendment rights. This is quite profound.


10 posted on 03/31/2015 4:52:50 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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