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To: ColdOne
"can be achieved without new action from Congress"

Correct. In 2007 SCOTUS ruled that CO2 was a pollutant(Massachusetts v EPA). SCOTUS told EPA to regulate CO2 with the Clean Air Act(1972). Which means they need nothing from Congress to proceed.

But, Obama(and Bush) wanted Congress to preempt EPA.

Congress debated cap and tax versus cape and trade in 2008. Then Sen Obama supported cap and tax but cap and trade won out so Congress would try to pass cap and trade beginning in 2009.

The House tried in 2009 and the Senate tried in 2010, but both failed.

After the Senate failed in 2010, Obama/EPA began moving forward with their CO2 regs.

The first set of regs there in 2010 dealt with new permits or new plants. Regs on existing plants wouldn't come until 2014.

After the new permit regs were issued in 2010, many lawsuits were filed and the court would combine all the suits into a single case called Utility Air Regulatory Group vs EPA. That reached SCOTUS and they ruled almost totally for Obama, but they did put some minor limits on the permitting process. That ruling was about June 15, 2014.

Just prior to this, on about June 1, 2014, Obama would issue his regs on existing permits/plants. Two lawsuits have already been filed including one from 12 coal states. EPA will issue the final rule later this year, after which there will probably be more suits filed. That will have to go all the way to SCOTUS.

52 posted on 03/31/2015 12:47:32 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

[[That reached SCOTUS and they ruled almost totally for Obama,]]

Gee what a shocker- they ruled FOR dear leader WITHOUT ANY scientific evidence to back up the claim that man is causing climate change- The judges I n the supreme court should be disbarred and kicked to the curb for being so subjective and for legislating from the bench on issues they haven’t got a clue about!


57 posted on 03/31/2015 2:21:16 PM PDT by Bob434
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[[EPA will issue the final rule later this year,]]

Lemme guess- their ruling will be that ‘we must act quickly to save the planet’ and that ‘these regulations are just”


58 posted on 03/31/2015 2:22:28 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Ben Ficklin

Thanks for the heads up. A new EPA leader and a new president can change Bammy’s rules and methods.


65 posted on 04/01/2015 7:32:03 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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