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Obama supports reduction in military retirement pay
The Washington Times ^ | March 30, 2015 | Dave Boyer

Posted on 03/30/2015 1:08:15 PM PDT by jazusamo

President Obama said Monday he supports the recommendations of a military commission that would reduce the size of traditional military retirement pay by about 20 percent and offer a new defined-contribution benefit for troops who leave before 20 years of service.

In a letter to congressional leaders, Mr. Obama said the proposals are “an important step forward in protecting the long-term viability of the all-volunteer force, improving quality-of-life for service members and their families, and ensuring the fiscal sustainability of the military compensation and retirement systems.”

Mr. Obama said he has directed his advisers to refine some recommendations, and that the White House will report to Congress on any proposed changes by April 30.

Under the recommendations, the plan would continue to offer full retirement benefits to anyone who has served 20 years or more.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: military; obama; reduction; retirement
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To: Jet Jaguar

Ping.


41 posted on 03/30/2015 2:21:03 PM PDT by TADSLOS (A Ted Cruz Happy Warrior! GO TED!)
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To: jazusamo

FPOS.


42 posted on 03/30/2015 2:21:25 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: jazusamo

I am all in favor with defined contribution plans for the Civilian Federal Workforce. Let’s see that put into action before we go after Military retirements.


43 posted on 03/30/2015 2:44:03 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: jazusamo

Yeah,
Give those military retirees bennies to welfare scum.
Yeah, that’s the ticket if you are a mookabooker like this moosie turd we have as a leader.after those military heros weren’t gonna vote for him or his types anyway.


44 posted on 03/30/2015 2:57:16 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ( Obammy is a lie, a mooselimb and pond scum.)
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To: Joe Boucher

Amen


45 posted on 03/30/2015 2:58:58 PM PDT by jazusamo (0bama to go 'full-Mussolini' after elections: Mark Levin....and the turkey has.)
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To: jazusamo
Mr. Obama said the proposals are “an important step forward in protecting the long-term viability of the all-volunteer force, improving quality-of-life for service members and their families, and ensuring the fiscal sustainability of the military compensation and retirement systems.”

well, one truism's better than 3 complete lies
46 posted on 03/30/2015 3:08:32 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Rusty0604

“”He would cut military benefits but never the useless pencil pushers working in all the useless agencies.””

Speaking of pencil pushers - can anyone guesstimate the number of cars in the parking lots at the National Security Agency from pictures on TV today from the news of the incident there? Those cars represent a heck of a lot of employees in one agency. Wikipedia says 30,000-40,000 employees at the agency but doesn’t say if that’s in that one facility or if they’re spread out.

I remember one of the thrillers I read some time ago - either Brad Thor or Vince Flynn or the like that had the NSA facility in the story plot and about a lane or lanes of the highways through that part of the state that strictly feed straight into the facility grounds. Some freeper must be familiar with the area and I wondered if that was authentic.


47 posted on 03/30/2015 4:57:23 PM PDT by Thank You Rush (ugh!)
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To: Thank You Rush

Found an answer to my own question..

“”In addition to the NSA, Fort Meade is home to the Defense Information Systems Agency and the U.S. Cyber Command. About 11,000 military personnel and about 29,000 civilian employees work on the property.””


48 posted on 03/30/2015 5:18:23 PM PDT by Thank You Rush (ugh!)
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To: jazusamo; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; ...

Active Duty ping.


49 posted on 03/30/2015 5:31:44 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: rktman

No dear, you don’t.


50 posted on 03/30/2015 5:37:43 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. MLK)
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To: Don_Ret_USAF

When I retired as a Msgt, my retirement pay was a grand total of $761 a month. The scum bags in congress probably get that much in one day. Would I do it again? I might, but no way would I do it as an NCO.


51 posted on 03/30/2015 5:40:24 PM PDT by Mark17 (Beyond the sunset, O blissful morning, when with our Savior, Heaven is begun. Earth's toiling ended)
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To: tuffydoodle

A long time, My FRiend, a very long time.


52 posted on 03/30/2015 5:41:25 PM PDT by sport
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To: jazusamo

good. Get more young, smart officers and NCOs into the workplace. No one will EVER hire and old guy like me again. //sarcasm.

Obama is such a turd.


53 posted on 03/30/2015 5:45:10 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (When you are inclined to to buy storage boxes, but contractor bags instead.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Yes he is, useless.


54 posted on 03/30/2015 5:57:22 PM PDT by jazusamo (0bama to go 'full-Mussolini' after elections: Mark Levin....and the turkey has.)
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To: jazusamo

What is trying to do is change the defined pension to more of a 401k type. The good news is the the younger, non-career guys get matching funds. The bad news is that 20 year folks will not have enough in their self directed accounts to fully retire.

The cost of this will eliminate having to fully fund the pensions anymore. That means a savings of billions of dollars. The average 20 year vet will retire at about forty. Let’s say they get 1/2 their pay every year thereafter...the government is on the hook for that pay every year for the next 35 years.

Under the 401k version, the government matches the employees contribution for the 20 years they are employed. It is a tax deferred contribution that grows over time. When the employee retires, the government says “I’ll pay the healthcare benefits and you can shop at the base.”

As you can see, the long term liability drops like a rock. The Vet contributes more to their own retirement. They will move them to Obamacare and give them a basic credit.

It will be painted up as a rosy opportunity. But anyone who has been on a defined pension knows that BS.


55 posted on 03/30/2015 5:58:54 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (When you are inclined to to buy storage boxes, but contractor bags instead.)
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