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To: MamaTexan

Federal Judge Henry T. Wingate of the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Mississippi has had a copy of the long form birth certificate and a Certifed Letter of Verification for it from the Hawaii Registrar submitted by attorneys for the Mississippi Democratic Party Executive Committee in Orly Taitz’s Mississippi ballot challenge lawsuit.
Those exhibits were submitted to Judge Wingate on June 6, 2012.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/96289285
The birth certificate is on page 11 and the Verification Letter is in Page 12
http://www.scribd.com/doc/96289285

Administrative Law Judge Michael Mahili also received a copy of the long form from Obama’s attorney in the Georgia Ballot Challenges: Fararr, Powell Swensson and Weldon v. Obama.


138 posted on 03/29/2015 4:38:33 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: Nero Germanicus
The purpose of the full faith and credit clause was to provide uniformity in the legislatures and the courts. A statement from a registrar is NOT a judicial record OR proceeding unless that statement is entered into evidence in a court of law in the originating State, goes through the judicial proceeding of that state, and later gets transferred as part of those records to another state.

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And while the discussion concerning full faith and credit is interesting, it does nothing to prove Obama is natural born citizen even if he were born in Hawaii.

From the 1963 Kenyan Constitution
1. Every person who, having been born in Kenya, is on llth December. 1963 a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies or a British protected person shall become a citizen of Kenya on 12th December, 1963: Provided that a person shall not become a citizen of Kenya by virtue of this subsection if neither of his parents was born in Kenya.

2. Every person who, having been born outside Kenya is on llth December, 1963 a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies or a British protected person shall, if his father becomes, or would but for his death have become, a citizen of Kenya by virtue of subsection (1).
Chapter 1 - Citizenship

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Children of citizens of Kenya born outside Kenya are ALSO citizens.

Gee, that sounds a lot like-
I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.
§ 212. Citizens and natives / Law of Nations

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And the English common law from Coke -
There be regulary (unlesse it be in special cases) three incidents to a subject born.
1. That the parents be under the actual obedience of the king.
2. That the place of his birth be within the king’s dominion.
3. the time of his birth is chiefly to be considered; for he cannot be a subject born of one kingdom, that was born under the ligeance of a king of another kingdom
, albeit afterwards one kingdom descend to the king of the other.
Calvin’s Case - The Selected Writings and Speeches of Sir Edward Coke
http://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/911#lf0462-01_mnt034

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To Blackstone
OF THE PEOPLE, WHETHER ALIENS, DENIZENS, OR NATIVES
The first and most obvious division of the people is into aliens and natural-born subjects.
1 Natural-born subjects are such as are born within the dominions of the crown of England; that is, within the ligeance, or, as it is generally called, the allegiance, of the king; and aliens, such as are born out of it.
(snip)
Allegiance, both express and implied, is however distinguished by the law into two sorts or species, the one natural, the other local; the former being also perpetual, the latter temporary.
Chapter X , William Blackstone, Commentaries on the Laws of England

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While being born within the boundaries of the country is important, it is only a TEMPORARY, local allegiance.....It's the inherited Allegiance that's the key to someone being natural born.

155 posted on 03/30/2015 6:07:29 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as created by the Laws of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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