Stop Defending Phil Robertson — You’re Embarrassing Yourself

National Review ^ | 03/26/2015 | Katherine Timpf

[stars & stripes forever]

[He has a master’s degree, and is worth tens of millions of dollars]

I wonder how many magazines Phil Robertson would sell if he started his own magazine?

[editor-surveyor]

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‘Bout that good, yep.

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[editor-surveyor]

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Some obviously struggle more than others. Some lose the battle completely as we see in 2Peter 2. But there has to come a point where the struggle ends, one way or the other.
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[Steve_Seattle]

Thank you. So what Robertson was doing was pointing out that atheism - quite literally - denies moral absolutes. It is actually a fairly obvious - if not sophisticated - argument, an argument that Timpf is nonetheless too timid to use, so she must mock it for fear of offending secularists. But Robertson is pointing to an undeniable fact.

This is actually a case of Robertson schooling Timpf in Philosophy 101. And she thinks SHE is the sophisticated one?

[SeekAndFind]

If you think about it, Phil has a point ( although it was crudely made ).

Atheists, if they believe that we are all ultimately a by product of mindless chance and evolution from the primordial slime, and are the result of accidental collision of atoms with no Ultimate Creator giving us moral laws to follow, have to ask themselves — is there really and objectively RIGHT or WRONG? GOOD or EVIL?

Or is it simply a societal construct ( and an individual preference )?

In an atheistic worldview, Who decides whether a murderer is REALLY and OBJECTIVELY evil?

An accidental collision of atoms called NAZI’s struck down an an accidental collision of atoms called JEWS.... what of it then? It is simply all atoms in the end...

[SeekAndFind]

If you think about it, Phil has a point ( although it was crudely made ).

Atheists, if they believe that we are all ultimately a by product of mindless chance and evolution from the primordial slime, and are the result of accidental collision of atoms with no Ultimate Creator giving us moral laws to follow, have to ask themselves — is there really and objectively RIGHT or WRONG? GOOD or EVIL?

Or is it simply a societal construct ( and an individual preference )?

In an atheistic worldview, Who decides whether a murderer is REALLY and OBJECTIVELY evil?

An accidental collision of atoms called NAZI’s struck down an an accidental collision of atoms called JEWS.... what of it then? It is simply all atoms in the end...

[amorphous]

We are still sinners while we live on earth ( Romans 7 ), and we struggle with our sinful nature even after being born again.

Very true. The great thing is this: The more you struggle to overcome a sinful nature, the easier it gets because of the ever increasing measure of grace and wisdom the Almighty bestows on every true believer and follower.

[editor-surveyor]

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>> “Robertson seemed to be addressing the question of whether atheists, because they don’t believe in God, are unable to distinguish between good and evil acts.” <<

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And his crudely fashioned anecdote illustrates well that we all know the difference, but for some its “situational.”

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Fake controversy.

Nothing that Phil said was that great or that terrible or that interesting or that memorable.

Nothing that Katherine said was that great or that terrible or that interesting or that memorable.

[editor-surveyor]

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What it all comes down to is this:

If you allow yourself to believe that it is impossible, then it is.

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[rwoodward]

Phil Robertson is doing nothing but reciting the
words of the New Testament. Gee what a crime!

[sergeantdave]

“No one who voted for 0bama, even once, can embarrass me about anything.”

Love it when you spit nails, son of Colorado patriots.

;-)

[angryoldfatman]

Well, Katherine, we put up with you.

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And here is why...

[amorphous]

It is simply all atoms in the end...

You've defined it in terms many of our so-called brightest minds will only accept. To me it's just sad their arrogance and ignorance is so great that they don't even know how much they don't know.

“I have looked into most philosophical systems and I have seen that none will work without God.” - James Maxwell

[amorphous]

Yep

[TigersEye]

LOL Thanks, sergeantdave. I thought that was kind of mild. Blunt, but mild.

Seriously, I've done some mighty humiliating things in my life ... but I didn't vote for 0bama!

[MSF BU]

The original National Review was chock full of people who actively practiced their religion and of course, lots of veterans, combat & otherwise. I wonder how many of either group remains?

[so_real]

Phil Robertson is Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, John McCain, etc ... are an embarrassment, not a hero, and the socially conservative movement needs to distance itself from him them immediately.

[Chickensoup]

I also subscribe to Chronicles, First Things World Atlantic and a few other periodicals to round things out.

[Steve_Seattle]

I think that was basically Robertson’s point. He was agreeing with Nietzsche’s conclusions, not his premises. I mean, it was not Robertson who coined the phrase, “If God is dead, everything is permitted.”