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To: caww

“Well.... the US and Britain and Germany and all the G-20 have their Agencies as well....”

In an earlier post on this topic I quoted an article which acknowledged the existence of propaganda campaigns by the United States and its allies. I also commented in posts 144, 146, 147, 153 and perhaps other about how the Russian false propaganda and disinformation campaigns cannot be remotely compared to any other nation’s with the possible exception of China with respect to its usage in killing and murdering tens of millions of human beings, with the Russian carnage now continuing in the Ukraine and the Russian murdering of the MH-17 passengers and crew. The Russian trolling and information warfare is also highly relevant with Putin and his regime’s use of those resources and Russian media to threaten the use of Russian nuclear weapons in a first strike to commence a general nuclear war.

“You make it seem like ONLY Russia has these.....”

That is a false accusation, because I already quoted the same source which acknowledged Russia is not the only nation to be conducting propaganda campaigns. What sets Russia apart from every other nation by monumental degrees is the present and historical scope, lethality, and inhumane and criminal application of such operations.

“Just take a look at Soros who has his in 50 countries under various foundations and groups so that he might influence outcomes of interest.”

Soros is another foreign influence and threat to America and its Republicanism. However, Soros is not the topic covered by the news story under discussion and is being used in this discussion to change the subject away from the activities and threat posed by the Russian Internet trolls in general and the St. Petersburg Internet Research Agency in specific. Continuing efforts to change the subject to Soros or anything else not encompassed by the original news article that is the subject of this discussion may therefore be reasonably viewed as another attempt to quash criticism of those Russian operations.

“My question is why make such a deal out of it? Or is it just interesting for you to have discovered one of many operations like it?”

Because those Russian operations at worst pose a substantial threat to the lives of hundreds of millions of people around the word, insofar as the Russians could be deceived into believing their own false propaganda and disinformation and then act upon the false information to launch a first strike nuclear attack and war killing hundreds of millions of human beings around the world. At best such Russian operations have facilitated the killing of tens of thousands of Russians and non-Russians since 1991 alone, with a credible threat of countless more thousands of lives to be lost in the near future. A discussion of the Russian information warfare has the potential to better inform the public about the role of misinforming the public with disinformation that tends to facilitate deadly conflicts.


220 posted on 03/30/2015 11:51:12 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX
....” Russians could be deceived into believing their own false propaganda and disinformation and then act upon the false information to launch a first strike nuclear attack and war killing hundreds of millions of human beings around the world”....

Somehow you are under the impression that International Leaders, and or those who puppet them, care about the lives of their people. When in fact they are a commodity and treated as so..... Much more significant is their desire to orchestrate their ultimate agenda, and the power of which they covet, with as little interference as possible....and that includes wars, unless they accommodate their agenda...and certainly Nuclear none care to use....at least not yet.

Everyone who has watched the exchanges between Nato/Eu/US and Russia for decades now knows that Russia's red line was Ukraine as Nato continued it's expansion.... As did those who pursued interfering in Ukraine's affairs. What did they expect Russia would do...just stand by?

Moreso...what do they expect Russia to do as they keep isolating and backing Putin into a corner....who exactly is pushing who?....

Economic sanctions are also against International Law...but these are being played, used, and abused left and right by Obama....not just with Russia but any country he chooses to pressure to comply with his agendas. "Who" is doing the strong-arming, and admittedly so, pushing throughout the International communities to comply?

Russian operations are no more dangerous then those our own President is forging on the World Stage.....because he is playing a game of warfare to formulate positioning 'all' nations to comply...if you don't comply you can bet a "revolution" of it's people will rise to get the job done of removing whoever stands in the way.

Do you think he's warming up to the Islamic nations because he fears their Nuclear programs???? Not a chance...he intends to cater to them until he can use them to do what no American would ever stand for....and is doing that now as I write.

Just look at the geo-political landscape...Tunesia, Libya Egypt, Iran, Syria, Yemen, Jordon, they are all being pushed by Obama...including Israel.

If we have anyone to fear it's Barack Hussein Obama and his goones pushing that button!


223 posted on 03/30/2015 12:38:33 PM PDT by caww
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