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Germanwings pilot was locked out of cockpit before crash in France
New York Times ^ | 25 March | Nikola Clark

Posted on 03/25/2015 5:11:16 PM PDT by varialectio

PARIS — As officials struggled Wednesday to explain why a jet with 150 people on board crashed in relatively clear skies, an investigator said evidence from a cockpit voice recorder indicated one pilot left the cockpit before the plane’s descent and was unable to get back in.

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To: George Varnum

The copilot received training in Arizona...

[So did al Qaeda’s Tucson Cell.]


361 posted on 03/26/2015 5:10:00 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: 2sheep

Interesting.

Apparently and ironically, although homosexuality is forbidden under Sharia Law, it’s a pretty common practice in Islamic culture from what Veterans of the Sand box have told me.

When one of my buddies inquired of a local Afghani why all the “Man-love” if Islam forbids homosexuality, it was explained to him that it was only homosexuality if the men involved were in love with each other.
As long as there was no emotional attachment and it was just a sex act for their personal gratification, no harm nor foul.

There is a lot about the Islamic mind that boggles that of the Kafir, and that’s one of them.

So if this guy was a flaming out and proud gey, it might not preclude his devotion to Islam at all.

Just remember who the common spiritual entity is behind both Islam and Sodom, and that should explain a lot.


362 posted on 03/26/2015 5:20:28 PM PDT by George Varnum (Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light...)
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To: HereInTheHeartland; George Varnum

Sorry, that is not a serious news site. “Assumed” and “all evidence(???) indicates” and so on, never mind the editorial language to it heavy in the last part. Looks like the equivalent of WND. As does the PI-News it links (politically incorrect news).

It’s all possible (in fact his own personal Islam would make more sense than general depressed suicide here). But this is not the “A-HA!” moment, or article.

The fools from France should never be bumbling out in the open within 2 days about what they’ve heard as the investigation goes on. Totally irresponsible, and impossible to actually make conclusions on what is allegedly there as is. Air forensics never go this fast.


363 posted on 03/26/2015 5:59:27 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: amorphous; Talisker
There are over 6000 of A-320s built and the majority still fly today. If there is something seriously wrong with its design (think of one that nearly crashed last year due to wrong altitude reading)it would mean an end to many companies and an end to French-German Airbus Industries.

Solution - blame it on human error. Pay $300m to victim families. Been done in the past.

I am not saying this is the case here, but it could be.

But having a rich German kid who was living his dream of being a pilot end it in such bizarre way does not sound as probable in my book.

364 posted on 03/26/2015 7:15:51 PM PDT by DTA
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To: leakinInTheBlueSea

Flightrader24 did analysis of the planes descent, info
here:

http://forum.flightradar24.com/threads/8650-We-have-analysed-the-raw-data-from-the-transponder-of-4U9525-and-found-some-more-dat?p=64616

He set it to 96 feet, probably because 0000 couldn’t be set

Just a real tragedy


365 posted on 03/26/2015 7:30:40 PM PDT by WonkyTonky
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To: Greysard
>>>>>I flew on a private airplane some years ago from San Jose to San Diego. The captain told us that cell phones stop working pretty fast, but we are welcome to try if we want to. We did try - and indeed they lost signal as we climbed to a few thousand feet, if not earlier. Modern cellular infrastructure is highly optimized, and not much power is wasted.<<<<<<

Remember the stories about UA-93 passengers using cell phones to call their families? In movie jargon it's called continuity error

366 posted on 03/26/2015 7:40:04 PM PDT by DTA
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To: the OlLine Rebel
I think you will find that you are wasting your time to say it wasn't Islam.
When it walks like a duck; and wears a suicide vest like a radicalized duck; it is a radicalized; jihadist duck.
367 posted on 03/26/2015 8:29:49 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland
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To: DTA
But having a rich German kid who was living his dream of being a pilot end it in such bizarre way does not sound as probable in my book.

There's the lack of a fire, too.

What happened to all that fuel?

368 posted on 03/26/2015 9:08:39 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: WonkyTonky

Interesting... the pilot input altitude in the transponder data is only available with Enhanced Surveillance Mode S (EHS)... as far as I know the enhanced surveillance (EHS) Mode S transponders are not mandated for new aircraft in EU until the end of this year, and older aircraft until 2017. Looks like Lufthansa is ahead of schedule even on its budget fleet. Amazing that they would pay up front for a marginal improvement in safety but fail to screen their pilots sufficiently. Would hate to be the air traffic controller in that situation (assuming they were equipped to receive this info.. not sure if all EU ATC facilities have been upgraded to receive the EHS data yet). Must be the most helpless feeling in the world to see an aircraft deviate from a clearance, become non responsive over the radio and see the pilot-input altitude as 100ft. If that controller had the EHS info, he/she knew exactly what was happening.


369 posted on 03/26/2015 10:05:31 PM PDT by leakinInTheBlueSea
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To: DTA

Bizarre indeed. But in this case, I don’t see any indication the aircraft was at fault. Seems people will always think of ways to kill others despite all we can do to build safeguards into systems to prevent this evil fault in mankind occuring from the time Cain killed Able.


370 posted on 03/26/2015 10:37:21 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: HereInTheHeartland

No evidence of any kind that it was a duck: every piece of evidence emerging makes it more probable that it wasn’t.


371 posted on 03/27/2015 9:39:59 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: Winniesboy

Non ducks don’t fly airplanes full of people deliberately into solid objects.
Ducks have a track record of doing such a thing.
It may or may not be a duck; but until proven otherwise; it is best to keep the duck possibility wide open.


372 posted on 03/27/2015 9:43:29 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland
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