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Cue the Ted Cruz birthers… again [Once more with feeling: "Is he a natural born citizen?"]
Hotair ^ | 03/23/2015 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 03/23/2015 8:36:35 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: chicken head

He is as much a NBC of Cuba as he is the U.S.


21 posted on 03/23/2015 8:52:24 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“That ship has sailed.”

Not only has it sailed, its already in the New World, building colonies, drinking rum and cider, and the people are expanding westward.
That ship is VERY gone indeed.


22 posted on 03/23/2015 8:53:56 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: chicken head

Cruz is not a NBC

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So? How many lower and even Supreme Court decisions do you need to accept that the definition of a NBC is NOT what you, I or the Constitution thought it meant but what the Courts say it is.

Cruz is eligible.


23 posted on 03/23/2015 8:54:20 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The BIG question for all of the Republican candidates: If elected and given the fact of so much evidence, will you peruse criminal charges against Obama and his regime and resend every thing that Obama has done to include his two Supreme Court appointments while he was in the WH?


24 posted on 03/23/2015 8:56:42 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: LibFreeUSA

“The laws are on his side that he is. Anyone who doubts it, is living in their own fantasy.”

And Cruz actually is a constitutional lawyer. According to Dershowitz one of the brightest he’s ever seen. Not like an Obama EEOC kid pushed along and spit out the other end to a welfare lawyer job, and an adjunct lecturer until he had to surrender his law license.


25 posted on 03/23/2015 8:56:58 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
John McCain was born in Panama of American citizen parents.

I'm of the opinion the 2008 elections were engineered to erode the NBC requirement.
The whole issue is also muddied by the easy confusion of anchor-baby style naturalization and citizen by right of birth [NBC].

The NWO-types hate the NBC requirement because inherent and underlying that requirement is the assumption that nationality does matter, and that those born to a country have a greater chance of being loyal to that country than just anybody.

26 posted on 03/23/2015 8:57:40 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: publius911

His executive order on his first day as president, hiding his entire life history, is all the proof I need.

B U M P


27 posted on 03/23/2015 8:57:51 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Lurkinanloomin
No one was interested in what Article II sec.1 meant when Obama ran.

That's a lie; those of us who were, were told to kindly shut up or wait for the proper time to challenge it or ignored or flatly dismissed.
The flat dismissal BTW is the favorite of the judiciary: nope, you don't have standing is a convenient way to dodge the issue.

28 posted on 03/23/2015 9:00:03 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: SeekAndFind
FIRST, answer the question for whom it REALLY applies, the ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF.

It's there for anyone who wants to take the time to find it.

One other thing.
Obama is NOT black !
The ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF is ARAB-KENYAN. The Arab-Kenyan Barack Hussein Obama II, (a.k.a. Barry Soetoro), ( the one guilty of TREASON ! ) has NO legitimate Social Security Number.
His father was NOT an immigrant to the United States.
Barack Obama Sr. was a "Transient Alien" because he did NOT intend on residing in the United States permanently.
Barack Obama Sr. was a dual citizen of Great Britain and Kenya, and NEVER a United States Citizen.His mother could NOT impart U.S. citizen to her son, Barack Obama II, because she did NOT meet the legal requirements to do so, at the time her son was born IN the Coast Provincial General Hospital, MOMBASA, KENYA at 7:21 pm on August 4, 1961.
Democrats knew this and tried to eliminate the "Natural Born Citizen" requirement at least 8 times BEFORE Obama won his election in 2008.

Obama is NOT a United States Citizen, and is NOT a LEGAL IMMIGRANT.
He has no VISA allowing him into this country.
Barack Hussein Obama II IS ILLEGAL !

29 posted on 03/23/2015 9:00:11 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Timber Rattler
Neither is the Kenyan currently in the White House. So what?

And your reply clearly illustrates why 'precedent' is terrible — just because the law was broken in the past doesn't make it a-ok to break it now.

30 posted on 03/23/2015 9:01:08 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: reed13k
If Obama was based on only his mother’s citizenship then so is Ted. Not saying Obama should have been allowed.

Devil's advocate: Two wrongs DO make a right?

31 posted on 03/23/2015 9:01:36 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & Ifwater the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: SeekAndFind
"But there are only two types of citizens under the law: Natural born Americans (from birth), and naturalized Americans, who undergo the legal process of becoming a US citizen."

There are 5 different Citizenship terms used in the United States Constitution. See the first link below.

Note the reference to Natural Law in the first sentence of our Declaration of Independence.

The Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.

Citizenship Terms Used in the U.S. Constitution - The 5 Terms Defined & Some Legal Reference to Same

"The citizenship of no man could be previous to the declaration of independence, and, as a natural right, belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776."....David Ramsay, 1789.

A Dissertation on Manner of Acquiring Character & Privileges of Citizen of U.S.-by David Ramsay-1789

The Law of Nations or the Principles of Natural Law (1758)

The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God: The True Foundation of American Law

The Biggest Cover-up in American History

32 posted on 03/23/2015 9:02:12 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: OneWingedShark
Whatever. I don't have ANY patience for birthers who couldn't get it done with Obama, and now want to turn their guns on our man Cruz.

Let me repeat...the NBC ship has sailed! Period.

33 posted on 03/23/2015 9:02:26 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: reed13k

Lib: “Ted Cruz isn’t qualified as a natural born citizen!”

Us: “After the left’s defense of Obama, the proper response to that line of argument is a simple ‘shut up’, or, if you persist, a punch in the mouth.”


34 posted on 03/23/2015 9:02:44 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: chicken head

As long as his mother was a U.S. citizen and resided in the U.S. for a minimum of five years after her fourteenth birthday before giving birth to him then he most certainly IS a NBC.


35 posted on 03/23/2015 9:02:57 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Making harmless people defenseless, does not make dangerous people harmless)
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To: DesertRhino

But by citing laws (passed by congress) one is relying on Congress’s power to create a uniform rule of naturalization, and if he is naturalized then he is not a NBC.


36 posted on 03/23/2015 9:03:21 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
His executive order on his first day as president, hiding his entire life history, is all the proof I need.

Which executive order was that?

37 posted on 03/23/2015 9:03:22 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: SeekAndFind

Citizenship and “natural born” citizenship are not equivalents, but I’ve learned that this point is not worth contending.
Being born on territory of the U.S.A. is a requirement of eligibility to hold the office of President, irrespective of the nationality of one’s mother. My wife, born in the U.S.A., could legally run for and hold the office of President, although her mother never terminated her Norwegian citizenship or tried to become a U.S. citizen.
The prospective candidate’s natural born citizenship is the point; not the citizenship of his/her mother.
That being seemingly terminally incomprehensible to some, I give up.


38 posted on 03/23/2015 9:04:47 AM PDT by Elsiejay (qeustion of qualificatioin)
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To: OneWingedShark
No one was interested in what Article II sec.1 meant when Obama ran.

That's a lie; those of us who were, were told to “kindly shut up” or “wait for the proper time to challenge it” or ignored or flatly dismissed.

Now that it's a white conservative in question is the "proper time", right?

39 posted on 03/23/2015 9:04:55 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & Ifwater the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: MrB

Liberals won’t have to question Cruz’s natural-born citizen status. There are enough conservatives willing to do that for them.


40 posted on 03/23/2015 9:04:58 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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