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Battle flag at center of Supreme Court free speech case
Fox News ^ | 3/23/15 | Associated Press

Posted on 03/23/2015 6:22:27 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck

exas commemorates the Confederacy in many ways, from an annual celebration of Confederate Heroes Day each January to monuments on the grounds of the state Capitol in Austin. Among the memorials is one that has stood for more than a century, bearing an image of the Confederate battle flag etched in marble.

But you're out of luck if you want to put that flag on your license plate. Texas says that would be offensive.

Now the Supreme Court will decide whether the state can refuse to issue a license plate featuring the battle flag without violating the free-speech rights of Texans who want one. The justices hear arguments Monday in a challenge brought by the Texas division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: confederateflag; freespeech; licenseplates
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If the state wants to ban a Confederate vanity plate on the grounds that if offends somebody, fine, there's nothing that says that the state has to subsidize your free speech. But let it do so consistently and require that any and all political messages be removed from plates, because everything out there is likely to "offend" somebody in today's hypersensitive victim culture. Otherwise, it's just cherry picking which groups "deserve" not to be offended.
1 posted on 03/23/2015 6:22:27 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck

Fly the Bonnie Blue instead.


2 posted on 03/23/2015 6:30:19 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: ek_hornbeck

Your correct. For every issue, there is someone pro/con.

I am a member of Sons of Confederate Veterans. Two GG Grandfathers fought for the South and I happen to be pretty proud of my Southern heritage.

Liberals have guilted mamby pamby white guys into being ashamed of their heritage. We see liberal attempts to re-write history, dumb down the importance of the constitution and so on.

The myth that that battle flag represents hate/slavery is just shear poppycock. That flag stands for states rights, for Southern independence from an overbearing federal behemoth.

http://scvtexas.org/


3 posted on 03/23/2015 6:30:42 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: ek_hornbeck

I can hear it now, “Senator Cruz, where do you fall on the issue of banning the Confederate vanity plates?”

The perfect racial gotcha question.


4 posted on 03/23/2015 6:40:16 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: ek_hornbeck

The license plate of a vehicle should be that, showing that the vehicle is duly registered in the state. To have team names, flowers, birds etc. or political slogans on same is opening a Pandora’s box, to anything and everything.


5 posted on 03/23/2015 6:43:59 AM PDT by kenmcg
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To: V_TWIN
"I think license plates are a States issue and has nothing to do with the federal government".

That's the right answer.

/johnny

6 posted on 03/23/2015 6:45:46 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: kenmcg
The license plate of a vehicle should be that, showing that the vehicle is duly registered in the state. To have team names, flowers, birds etc. or political slogans on same is opening a Pandora’s box, to anything and everything.

I agree, and have no problem with any state banning political messages from license plates, or vanity plates altogether. As I said, the state (or federal) government doesn't have to subsidize your free speech, it just can't interfere with it.

However, when the state says that certain political messages on plates are OK and others are not, this is effectively a subsidy of one group's freedom of expression over another's. So the state should either allow the Confederate plates if it's in the business of supporting other people's political slogans, or be consistent and stop the use of plates for political or personal reasons period. Instead, as politicians usually do, they want to have it both ways and side with political correctness.

7 posted on 03/23/2015 6:47:36 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: JRandomFreeper

“...next question.” Exactly right.


8 posted on 03/23/2015 6:48:17 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck

Maybe we could just pretend that the Confederate States of America never existed, that the War Between the States never occurred and that the Confederate Flag never flew. Or maybe we could just quit pretending that symbols really offend anyone. We could just as easily act like black robes are offensive. Nine “justices” in black robes have, in fact, done lots of offensive things.


9 posted on 03/23/2015 6:52:21 AM PDT by lakecumberlandvet (APPEASEMENT NEVER WORKS.)
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To: kenmcg
The license plate of a vehicle should be that, showing that the vehicle is duly registered in the state. To have team names, flowers, birds etc. or political slogans on same is opening a Pandora’s box, to anything and everything.

Texas has over 400 specialty plates. Since they're granting them to everything under the sun then they should hold the SCV to no higher and no lower standard on approving their plates too.

10 posted on 03/23/2015 7:12:38 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: servantboy777

Memorable, worth a read for all interested.

http://www.wnd.com/2010/09/209597/


11 posted on 03/23/2015 7:19:45 AM PDT by golux
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“To have team names, flowers, birds etc. or political slogans on same is opening a Pandora’s box, to anything and everything.”

Curious, what is your stand on “Disabled Vet” license plates, or license plates that have combat medals noted on the plates? (Speaking as a guy in Texas, we have those)

I imagine, come to think of it, there are many Rats out there that find any reference to the military to be offensive, doubly so if the license indicates combat, therefore killing all those poor peaceful muslimes. . .

12 posted on 03/23/2015 7:31:00 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: V_TWIN

He would fall on the side of free speech. I don’t like what’cha say, but will defend to the death your right to say it.


13 posted on 03/23/2015 7:41:00 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: golux

The federals have sanctioned a modern day slavery in our modern time, first by enslaving men to the handout. Secondly, turning a blind eye to illegal immigration where men come to America and work for sub-standard wages that fall well below the federal poverty standard.

Some things....really do not change.


14 posted on 03/23/2015 7:45:07 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777

my grandfather was a confederate soldier,i am a lifetime member o the scv.i have the flag on my nc plate.by the way i knew him,not somebody i read about in a book.


15 posted on 03/23/2015 8:14:46 AM PDT by old gringo
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To: old gringo
Good for you brother.

I contacted Haywood co. camp and they had all of my GG Grandfathers enlistment records. Pretty cool.

I am a member of Grimes County Greys out of Grimes Co. Texas.

We also had in our family on both sides, two plantations...one in La. and the other in Elora Tenn.. There were never stories of cruelty. In fact, after emancipation, the blacks in large part wanted to stay on the farms. It was were their children were raised, were they had their homes, schools and livelihoods.

So many folks want to paint Southerners as mean evil slave owners when in fact it was not this way at all. Many did see the negro as lesser in society, but there were many who also had them as parts of their families.

16 posted on 03/23/2015 8:22:43 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777

Yep! And the victors re-write history.


17 posted on 03/23/2015 8:24:51 AM PDT by golux
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To: golux
As we've all painfully seen.

Cannot deny, the majority of Yankees are liberal mamby pamby greenie weenie progressives that want to lord over everyone else.

Red state/blue state thang...ya know.

18 posted on 03/23/2015 8:29:08 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: ek_hornbeck
Those Texans that belong to the race of professional victims are exhibiting hypocrisy. The Lone Star Flag of Texas was flown every battle where there were Texans fighting against the Union and for the Confederacy. Should the Lone Star Flag be included because it represented the Confederacy de facto as was the CBF?
19 posted on 03/23/2015 9:20:56 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: ek_hornbeck; windcliff; stylecouncilor
The Feds un-Constitutionally intruding into States Rights issues again. That is primarily the resentment of those who would display the Confederate Battle Flag.

Long may she wave.


20 posted on 03/23/2015 9:28:53 AM PDT by onedoug
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