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Ransomware: Pay it or fight it?
Network World ^ | Mar 16, 2015 | Colin Neagle

Posted on 03/21/2015 9:30:33 AM PDT by xzins

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1 posted on 03/21/2015 9:30:33 AM PDT by xzins
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This is a new one for me, but it seems a natural next step for the thieves in the virus/spyware business. I’ve often thought that the companies producing the solutions had a lot to gain from new viruses being created. That’s something I hope isn’t true, but it’s been in the back of my mind.

Now, the guy with the solution is the guy who creates the problem.

How can this not be an actionable crime?


2 posted on 03/21/2015 9:30:46 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It -- Those Who Truly Support Our Troops Pray for Their Victory!)
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Run a daily backup and it’ll never be an issue.


3 posted on 03/21/2015 9:32:44 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Will steal your comments & post them on Twitter)
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You don’t need to do either. It a scam. Shut down your computer, sign in as the administrator and run your antivirus scans to remove the virus.

It’s a clever virus but it can be removed. It just needs to be removed outside before you “sign in” to your computer, and that’s through administrator mode.

I’ve had this happen to me and resolved it.


4 posted on 03/21/2015 9:34:45 AM PDT by cotton1706 (ThisRepublic.net)
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This says that they lock you out of your files and that restore doesn’t necessarily help.


5 posted on 03/21/2015 9:35:53 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It -- Those Who Truly Support Our Troops Pray for Their Victory!)
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It’s a crime. But the criminals are in other countries and aren’t available for prosecution. At least not easily.


6 posted on 03/21/2015 9:37:08 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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The better question is, why the hell did you get it in the first place???

And how come you don't have up-to-date backups?

DO THE SMART THING:

Then you won't have to worry about this crapware, ransomware, etc.

It's a fact.

7 posted on 03/21/2015 9:38:03 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: cotton1706

I’ve had this happen to me, as well. My solution has always been to go in before window’s starts and reset the system to an earlier date, then run Malwarebytes. Now if some white hat hacker were to track these guys down, we could round them up and shoot them.


8 posted on 03/21/2015 9:38:21 AM PDT by TexasBarak (I aim to misbehave!)
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Removing the "virus" won't do any good if the malware has already encrypted all your files. The only way to get your data back is to decrypt it, and the only way to do that is with the key.

The solution is to track these vermin down and break their skulls.

9 posted on 03/21/2015 9:39:41 AM PDT by IronJack
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> Run a daily backup and it’ll never be an issue.

Exactly true.

There are great programs that can even give you hourly incrementals (like Apple's Time Machine) and you can go back to just before you got hit.

10 posted on 03/21/2015 9:40:01 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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“How can this not be an actionable crime?”

It is a crime, but it usually is not actionable:

1. You have to have a government who is willing and capable of investigating and prosecuting such a crime, which we do not have at present.

2. The government must have a means of extraditing the suspect/s to stand trial, which they usually don’t with respect to the vast majority of cyber-criminals conducting state supported criminal racketeering from Russia, China, North Korea, and so forth.

Ransomware has destroyed three hard drives of my data so far....


11 posted on 03/21/2015 9:40:39 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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Now, the guy with the solution is the guy who creates the problem.

We see this all the time... those guys are called lawyers and politicians.


12 posted on 03/21/2015 9:40:40 AM PDT by Rodamala
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> The only way to get your data back is to decrypt it,

Not true. Just restore from your recent backup.

You DO make backups, right???

13 posted on 03/21/2015 9:41:09 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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I’ve not had it happen, and hopefully won’t, but it’s good to have that solution on file.


14 posted on 03/21/2015 9:41:59 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It -- Those Who Truly Support Our Troops Pray for Their Victory!)
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Wished Symantec could do it. On the couple with ransomware that came to me, it took either other 3rd party or just wiping and starting over.

I hate Symantec but McAfee is even worse. Supposedly we are going to it.


15 posted on 03/21/2015 9:42:27 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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> This says that they lock you out of your files and that restore doesn’t necessarily help.

We're not talking about Windows System Restore. That's NOT A BACKUP.

We're talking about a full backup of the machine, plus incrementals of changed files. It's not hard to do. You just have to care about your work.

16 posted on 03/21/2015 9:44:45 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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The solution is to track these vermin down and break their skulls.

Yep. If Tom Jefferson was still President, he would have our federals doing this. This is one appropriate function/place for federal action.

Find them. Kill them.

It's a criminal attack on US citizens on US soil by foreign powers. Kill them.

/johnny

17 posted on 03/21/2015 9:45:40 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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A much better solution, and the one I’d use if I was President, would be to form an elite unit that tracked these scum down and assassinated them in extremely gruesome fashion, leaving behind warning messages of a no uncertain character for the rest. My prediction is that these types of cyberattacks would quickly wane in the presence of such countertactics.


18 posted on 03/21/2015 9:45:42 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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I do an Acronis image of all of my PCs (home/laptop/work) every quarter. When (because just like dropping your bike, it's not if but when) I get bitten I do a full restore.

I also have a second HD in my home desktop where I store/install everything but the basic Win7 Pro operating system.

19 posted on 03/21/2015 9:47:37 AM PDT by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: dayglored

To your very good list I would add the following:

If someone actually HAS software that will make your machine 200% faster, why would they offer to give it away for free?

Porno sites are the WORST because no one wants to report being infected by one so they run free forever.

Unless your stupid IT department has locked this feature out, always turn on show file extensions. With it on, anything you receive from anybody that has an extension of .exe should be thrown away immediately. Even if it appears to have been sent by a friend.


20 posted on 03/21/2015 9:47:39 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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