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ATF chief steps down after bullet ban controversy
The Hill ^ | March 20, 2015 | Tim Devaney

Posted on 03/20/2015 9:31:37 AM PDT by maggief

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To: maggief

Eric Holder is looking for a new job...


41 posted on 03/20/2015 10:15:54 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: maggief

Until the ATF (and pretty much every other “way around the Constitution” agency) gets shut down, it doesn’t mean a thing.


42 posted on 03/20/2015 10:17:11 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: Lazamataz

43 posted on 03/20/2015 10:21:10 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: maggief
Good riddance but there's always worse on the horizon.

shortly after the agency dropped a controversial attempt to ban certain armor-piercing bullets used in AR-15 rifles.

Wrong. The stuff isn't AP. M995 is AP, hardened tungsten carbide core, two bucks a round if you can find it anywhere and I stopped trying. Let's face it, the 5.56 isn't your first choice against an armored target.

This affair was obviously a deliberate stretch to see if they could redefine ammunition categories enough to restrict their contents. Had they succeeded, any rifle caliber that has ever been chambered in a pistol format could have been banned, which is a very wide range indeed. There was no mistake here, only a reach for power and it's high time the hand doing so got slapped, hard.

44 posted on 03/20/2015 10:29:34 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Lazamataz

I don’t know if you create these visuals or find them somehow, but they’re awesome, Dude!


45 posted on 03/20/2015 10:31:27 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: maggief
“ATF employees are hard-working, dedicated individuals who serve the public to make our nation safer every day,”

ATF employees who are worth keeping should transfer to the FBI. The others should find useful jobs. ATF should be disbanded, and all federal firearms laws should be repealed. "Shall not be infringed" means exactly what it says.

46 posted on 03/20/2015 10:50:28 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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ATF employees are hard-working, dedicated individuals who serve the public to make our nation safer every day,” Jones said in a statement. “I have seen firsthand their extraordinary commitment to combating violent crime, ridding the streets of criminals, and leveraging all available resources to keep our communities safe

How many lies can a person cram into one "statement"?

47 posted on 03/20/2015 10:50:28 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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“Hardly something you’re going to carry around in your pocket or a holster. But it does look scary! /s”

Yeah, and I just imagine that it’s noisy with that short barrel. An ordinary AR isn’t what you’d call quiet.


48 posted on 03/20/2015 10:58:10 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: maggief

Not hardly’enough. Atf needs to be done away with and never return.


49 posted on 03/20/2015 11:01:27 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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There really isn’t such a thing as an AR15 “pistol.”

That's not correct. Bushmaster and others such as Olympic Arms made many auto pistols on the AR platform. I used to own one. They were not SBRs and they did not require a tax stamp. As I recall, the barrel was about 9 inches and did not have a stock. It was cool, but really more of a novelty and kind of useless...just a bullet hose. However, I never heard of one being used in a crime. A few years back Bushmaster was still selling them for around $1000 to $1100.

50 posted on 03/20/2015 11:07:15 AM PDT by suijuris
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Bushmaster still sells them as Enhanced Patrolman Pistols. They have barrels from 7 inches to 10.5 inches and MARP ranges from $973 to over $1200.
51 posted on 03/20/2015 11:11:45 AM PDT by suijuris
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To: maggief

Fired because he backed off the decree?


52 posted on 03/20/2015 11:12:49 AM PDT by duffee (Dump the Chairman of the Mississippi Republican Party, joe nosef.)
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To: cripplecreek; All

Much harder to take someone’s pension after he has retired...

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2015/03/why-did-batfe-back-off-ammo-ban.html


53 posted on 03/20/2015 11:39:47 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: vette6387

Very loud - yes. And if you put a stock on it, it becomes a SBR.


54 posted on 03/20/2015 11:43:09 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: cripplecreek
So the next guy will impose the emperor’s decree.

“The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”

Constitution of the United States, Article II, Section 4

55 posted on 03/20/2015 1:13:18 PM PDT by archy
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To: IYAS9YAS
Yes, there are. And barrels are available as short as 7.5" for them. They don't have stocks, but use a buffer tube coming out the back in order to fit the definition of a pistol.

And those that operate on straight blowback, such as the ones in .22 and 9mm, dispense with the buffer tube all together. Not sure about the ones in the FN 5.7 caliber- which IS a pistol cartridge that WAS designed to defeat soft body armour.


56 posted on 03/20/2015 1:19:25 PM PDT by archy
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