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To: nathanbedford

Personally, I think both of the candidates you mention, as well as the rest of the candidates that the GOP is offering up, are still missing several of the fundamentals that are absolutely essential to saving the republic.

And I also think the Article V idea is a diversion as long as it is oath-breakers who either don’t understand, or don’t care about, the first principles of the republic who will be choosing the delegates. Garbage in, garbage out.


34 posted on 03/19/2015 8:35:28 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Not willing to believe that your "alternative" was to curse the darkness, I looked at replies in this thread and discovered:

All we really need to make any number of good things work is a sufficient mass of people who are finally willing to quit messing around with compromise and start taking principled action.

I am relieved that you commit to soldier on because we have no other choice except perhaps to accept Voltaire's prescription and tend to our own gardens. That attitude, too often, is but the way to the guillotine. We are conservatives, we do not quit and I'm glad you are ready to take principled action.

I think we need more than a sufficient mass of people, I think we need a cause, a spokesman, a vehicle, and money. We will never have enough money, we will never have the perfect vehicle (God knows we agree on that about the GOP), we will never have the perfect spokesman, (even Ronald Reagan was flawed), and the perfect cause is illusory but a very popular cause will do. In other words, I say do not let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

We have a vehicle ready to hand, the Article V movement which has the virtue of sidestepping the corrupt Washington elitists who currently dominate the Republican party. Those who call for a convention and who would attend the convention would not necessarily the Washington elitists and they would not necessarily have the same set of venal motivations-no doubt they will have their own but they will be different. This runs around the "garbage in-garbage out" objection.

Article V does not require a lot of money although it will be opposed by an avalanche of money. Either Ted Cruz or Scott Walker might decide that they can break through the media barrier and the establishment moat by aligning themselves with this movement. In a stroke, they can make the campaign one about the kinds of issues that might actually save the country, which many of the cynics on this thread think is an impossibility.

I might also add this combination of candidate and vehicle offers the hope of process reform which, again contrary to many of the cynics on this thread, offers real possibility for real reform, the kind of reform that might actually save the Republic from its impending cascade over the Cliff. Process reform is indispensable to our present political situation in which we were up against an establishment, fixed interests, money, media, and a demographic tsunami.

without reform the process or any political appeal, no matter how committed the candidate might be to your principles, will inevitably fail.


48 posted on 03/19/2015 9:21:38 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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