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California Is Turning Back Into A Desert And There Are No Contingency Plans
Mens' News Daily ^ | 3/15/2015 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 03/16/2015 5:01:21 AM PDT by HomerBohn

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To: grania

I guess they are!

http://www.mercurynews.com/science/ci_25859513/nations-largest-ocean-desalination-plant-goes-up-near


21 posted on 03/16/2015 5:31:45 AM PDT by Marie
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To: HomerBohn

You are probably wrong. The desert depends on water that is not there and stuff is drying up

The drought is the back breaking straw.

I was in the big agricultural valley and saw many farms with trees that were all brown adjacent to green crops.The water to sustain the tree crops is missing and all the thousands of trees were allowed to die.


22 posted on 03/16/2015 5:35:17 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: ScottinVA

“Desalination would rehydrate the thirsty landscape out there, and provide the folks with all the drinking water they could ever need (wouldn’t it also assuage all those climate nutjobs’ concerns about the “rising ocean,” too?)

And the greening would help sequester CO2.

It’s a win all around. Nope, instead we have to give money to Al Gore and the envirowhackos for a reason that can only be surmised as “It’s seed money for Agenda 21.


23 posted on 03/16/2015 5:35:37 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Islam is the military wing of the Communist party.)
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To: marktwain
Yes this statement also left me scratching my head.

And at this point, the world is already eating more food than it produces most years.

24 posted on 03/16/2015 5:36:30 AM PDT by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: HomerBohn

Florida had a warm, unusually wet winter...


25 posted on 03/16/2015 5:36:37 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: grania
The world simply does not have enough fresh water left at this point, and that is why water is being called “the new oil”.

Sounds like "Peak Oil". Technological innovation and market incentives will solve any problems with fresh water "shortages".

26 posted on 03/16/2015 5:39:15 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: bert

-—BUTTT this cannot b!!!!- the ice caps are melting, the
oceans are rising, shorelines will disappear. The answer is
before us-—desalinization(?)!!! Git r dun!!


27 posted on 03/16/2015 5:39:47 AM PDT by oldbugleboy
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To: bert

“California” is not a desert. California is a huge state that encompass a multitude of different climatic conditions, from Mediterranean to subarctic. Most of the people here live in the southern coastal areas, from Santa Barbara to San Diego. This stretch is no more desert that Italy or Greece is. To the east, the Mojave Desert is obviously as dry as the Sahara but you want to tell me Yosemite is a desert? I don’t think so.

The population was exceeded the area’s ability to sustain the number of people here with the available water found locally, that’s true, but it’s not because the state is a desert.


28 posted on 03/16/2015 5:45:59 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: bert
This is not only affecting California....but the rest of the nations "food" for much comes from California farmers for the rest of the nation.

As of Aug. 14 'last summer'...., 82% of the state was in "extreme" to "exceptional" drought, which are 'the two worst categories' on the U.S. Drought Monitor............ Drought index shows 'combined impact' of warm temps & lack of rain, current CA Drought worst on record.

Look at the 50's drought compared with last years


29 posted on 03/16/2015 5:48:52 AM PDT by caww
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To: HomerBohn

I’ll say it again. The Govt here in Cali will let me know there really is a water crisis when I hear there’s a moratorium on the thousands of new building permits currently being rubber stamped by every city in the state.


30 posted on 03/16/2015 5:49:03 AM PDT by broken_clock (Do it Sarah! Cut the ties that bind.)
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To: HomerBohn

Sounds like we may be on the verge of a solution to mud slides.


31 posted on 03/16/2015 5:52:58 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: oldbugleboy
Before there is desalinization, there must be fracking and gas

A Freeper expert told me I am wrong, but it seems to me if the California gas supply was increased there could be water resulting

They do it in Qatar

32 posted on 03/16/2015 5:53:03 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: HomerBohn
Without the agricultural production of the state of California, we are in a massive amount of trouble.

No, some people are in a massive amount of trouble. This is fantastic news for the strawberry growers in Florida, and the peach growers in Georgia and South Carolina, among others. For those of us who grow our own produce I doubt 'we' will even notice. There are reasons why you don't put all your eggs in one basket......and this is one of them.

33 posted on 03/16/2015 5:54:15 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (If ignorance is bliss how come there aren't more happy people?)
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To: HomerBohn

God is not mocked.

There’s no guarantee he’s going to do an earthquake this time. He likes to mix it up.

Frogs? Dated. Locusts? Too many seagulls around.

Drought? Hmm, let’s see. The last generation of the people I gave this land to have killed 50 million babies. You could say California is suffering from a reproductive drought. What if I...


34 posted on 03/16/2015 5:54:31 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. .)
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To: HomerBohn

It sounds like a new version of the 1930’s dust-bowl, but in California.


35 posted on 03/16/2015 5:56:22 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: 5thGenTexan
So the desert conditions are the “historical norm”? Who let the little nugget of truth out?

Nailed it!

36 posted on 03/16/2015 5:56:37 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (If ignorance is bliss how come there aren't more happy people?)
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To: HomerBohn

Article claims the world as a whole is running out of fresh water and consuming more food than produced. Anyone who believes that should immediately commit suicide. They are obviously too stupid to live.


37 posted on 03/16/2015 5:59:01 AM PDT by hlmencken3 (I paid for an argument, but you're just contradicting!)
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To: HomerBohn
They are building a desalinization plant in Carlsbad CA (http://carlsbaddesal.com/) Assuming it completes on time (I know, big assumption), they say they will be getting water by late 2015.
38 posted on 03/16/2015 5:59:46 AM PDT by Marko413
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To: HomerBohn

1) Go to the Israelis and politely ask, “Please help us grow more vegetables with less water.”

2) Forget the Delta Smelt. Form a STATE “PPA” - People Protection Agency to override the EPA whenever EPA regulations are detrimental to PEOPLE!

3) Fast track Thorium reactors, first for desalination, then for general power. Many small-medium sized to make project costs reasonable, attract competition in design and business models. Require certification of the design, not every single instance. Nuclear power plants could be build for the cost of one to three Boeing 747s.

4) Buy US Navy nuclear powered ships scheduled for decommissioning. Use these as relocatable power plants. Order additional shipboard reactors from their manufacturers as stopgap desalination power plants.

http://depletedcranium.com/hope-this-works/
“What does it cost to build a nuclear plant?
What could it cost?”

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A typical aircraft carrier in the US military uses nuclear power to desalinate 400,000 US gallons (1,500,000 l; 330,000 imp gal) of water per day.

The single largest desalination project is Ras Al Khair in Saudi Arabia, which produces 1,025,000 cubic meters per day in 2014[4] The largest percent of desalinated water used in any country is in Israel, which produces 40% of its domestic water use from seawater desalination.[6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desalination

Finally, start and X-Prize for the team that makes a desalination plant producing X-gallons/day at Y dollars cost. Invite Bill Gates, Apple, Google, Elon Musk, and all the little guys. THe prise if the Big Guys win is a bronze statue on the Capitol lawn in Sacramento. For the little buys, make the prize a ton of money, or royalties for 50 years.


39 posted on 03/16/2015 6:10:03 AM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: HomerBohn
In the long term, I'm not worried about the food production issue.

So many vegetables are grown in California, not because it is the most fertile area. They are grown there because of easy access to cheap illegal labor.

Vegetables used to be grown commercially up north, inlcluding Maine, Michigan, etc. Teenagers did the work of harvesting, and the product was canned. And some foods were truly seasonal.

The ground water in the American Southwest was primarily ancient groundwater, left behind when the glaciers melted. Using it has always been a finite proposition.

California WILL NOT continue to be a large agricultural procuder, it can't. So what comes next? There is a lot of productive acreage in the U.S. that can produce vegetables. Florida already produces a lot of vegetables, and although irrigation is used, average rainfall is quite high:


40 posted on 03/16/2015 6:11:27 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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