Posted on 03/14/2015 5:18:15 AM PDT by maggief
Did that course require that you take college algebra as a prerequisite, or were they going to give you credit for the course you took 20 years ago? I’d probably do fine in a statistical course with my work experience, but the school would want me to take their prerequisites, which makes learning a new skill expensive. We need more affordable certificate programs.
After college I took A job in pharma research that I enjoyed and was good at. I developed a highly technical skill set ad was even published for a neurobehavioral program that I helped set up.
The contract lab I worked for for 13yrs closed down due to lack of business right after Obamacare went through. The parent company closed operations in the US and built a huge campus in China. I went to work for another Pharm company in CT and they just merged with an English company and operations transferred for a better business climate.
I am now working overnights in a local hotel and trying to get back into driving. I'm non union so it gets a little dicey in that area.
I,m not going to say that college is worthless but my advice is to take what classes you need to learn to do what you want to do or find someone to apprentice with. It will be a whole lot cheaper in the long run
Another drain the government plan.
Obama’s college and law school experience is not especially controversial or suspect. He had the helping hands that any smart, personable, prep-school educated African American child of a low-income single mother had before him, at the same time as him, and since. Now those helping hands certainly are considerable, but are only objectionable or controversial to the extent that you consider affirmative action objectionable or controversial as a general matter. No conspiracy, that’s for sure.
And while it’s clear that he had some powerful friends and advocates who navigated him from Harvard Law to his first book contract and his gig at the University of Chicago, from then on, it was pretty much all him. The way he launched his political career — a 1996 machine-supported bid for the state legislature from a Chicago district — was hardly auspicious for a big time political career; no Chicago local pol had been elected Governor or US Senator since 1948, and even that was Paul Douglas who was no Daley guy. From 2003 to 2008 the guy was willing to take on long odds and got nice and lucky when the odds-on Democrats proved hapless and the Republicans nominated jokes and has-beens to oppose him.
It's just depressing to see how cost prohibitive it is. We prepared for four years of school for two kids, not eight.
Good point. I was engaged in Internet hyperbole. "Transgender studies" was meant as a joke. I was pointing out that much of what goes on in college is a waste of time and money. But "much" doesn't mean "all." No offense meant.
Do a search on “Brandon Foltz” on Youtube. He’s quite good.
I don’t need any college credit; I just need the knowledge to do the project. There’s a ton of videos out there on statistics on youtube if you’re just looking to gain knowledge. I agree about certification programs! Give me an intense three months, an internet connection, and a library, and I bet I could get certified for basic statistical methods.
Thank you.
I teach at the college level.
College is not for everyone. It really is time to make High Schools what they once were so that a High School degree has some meaning. When you find schools trying to push kids through who don’t have the ability, it cheapens the degree for everyone.
But you folks know that already.
People also learn and succeed at different rates. It is being simply “classist” to assert that a high school grad cannot do quite well, as in a private business.
On the other hand, the way Obama is putting the hurt on private business, maybe college is going to be the only/chief way now.
There’s also a push to educate beyond ability, or desire.
If only there were good jobs in private industry to send HS grads to.
A high school diploma is almost worthless. "No Child Left Behind" has put high school principals in a near impossible situation. Graduation Rate is the single most important metric they watch and adhere to. Everything else is completely secondary to that.
Nearly every spare minute and dollar is put into the most low-performing students in an attempt to provide tutoring, motivation, special programs... in an effort to secure passing grades. If that doesn't work, teachers are... pressured isn't the right word... but you better be able to offer some sort of last minute, do or die, special project or something that will be just enough to get the student across the "pass line."
Learning is not the top priority; awarding a credit is. At the end of the day, if a student has a pulse, they're getting a diploma. For the most part any way. There are always a few die-hards who will resist any attempt to help them out.
The other thing that is needed in high school is proper counseling. While I understand that indifferent students can blossom in college, they need some steering into a proper career path. "I want to be an engineer, because I googled and they make a lot of money" is unrealistic if a student has an ACT score of 15 in math.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with steering students into trade/vocational schools if that's where their talents and interests lie. But too often, I see the push for junior college or a four year school where the students will have little chance of success.
There’s also a push in community college to get students through. All kinds of tutoring, counseling, “early intervention”, etc. But if the kid can’t read, what good will the degree do.
I’ve had kids who showed up to every class, but did not participate. Did absolutely no homework. Either skipped exams or failed them miserably, who are shocked when I failed them because just showing up and doing nothing else got them through high school.
I guess my personal frustration is that none of this is doing any good to actually prepare the kid for life after school and tax payers’ money is being pissed away in the processes.
“”The average undergrad who borrows to pay for college ends up graduating with about $28,000 in student loan debt.””
Didn’t he forget to say PER YEAR unless of course, someone else is paying your way?
Also look at Khan Academy.
Marx was wrong about everything. And as a name caller it’s clear you lost the argument.
Except that was the case in the 1800s as well. US ALWAYS has had higher wages because of available land and entrepreneurial culture. How about this: cite me some foreign nations now stealing menial jobs who have a growing middle class.
Here’s our answer to putting kids through college with only one with student loan debt,:
‘Live like no one else so that you can live like no one else’.
I’ll note that as Keynes did not believe in quite a bit of what we call Keynesian Economics, Marx was a classically trained economist who didn’t believe in a substantial amount of what became called Marxism.
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